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NASB | Luke 8:13 "Those on the rocky soil are those who, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no firm root; they believe for a while, and in time of temptation fall away. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Luke 8:13 "Those on the rocky soil are the people who, when they hear, receive and welcome the word with joy; but these have no firmly grounded root. They believe for a while, and in time of trial and temptation they fall away [from Me and abandon their faith]. |
Subject: Please provide responses to these verses |
Bible Note: Doug You said you have to believe Scripture. So then believe this, because it comes from God's word; Acts 17:30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent: God commands all men everywhere to repent. Not my words. "In the things which God cannot do category is this; God cannot do our repenting for us. God has commanded all men to repent. It is a work which only they can do. It is morally impossible for one person to repent for another. Even Christ could not do this. He could die for us, but He cannot do our repenting for us. God in His mercy may incline us to repent (the goodness of God leads us to repentance) and by His inworking Spirit assist us to repent; but before we can be saved we must of our own free will repent toward God and believe in Jesus Christ. Another thing God cannot do; He cannot believe for us. Faith is a gift of God, to be sure, but whether or not we shall act upon that faith lies altogether the decision we must make using our free will. Repent and believe is the order. Faith will follow repentance, and salvation will be the outcome." (A.W. Tozer) Only those who by the goodness of God are led to repentance (Rom. 2:4) and follow through with God's command to repent (Acts 17:30) are granted the gift of repentance. (2 Tim. 2:25-26) So let me ask you one question; Did God do your repenting for you? Or did you personally need to repent of the sins you committed? Finally, It you still want to cling to the teaching of "once saved, always saved" then you will have to reconcile this from God's word with the rest of Scripture which you suppose supports that cherished teaching. But as you stated; "the Bible doesn't contradict itself" and by the way, I agree. So then since we both agree that the Bible never contradicts itself. Explain the following verses taken directly from the word of God. From the New Testament For in the case of those who have once been enlightened and have tasted of the heavenly gift and have been made partakers of the Holy Spirit, and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, and then have fallen away, it is impossible to renew them again to repentance, since they again crucify to themselves the Son of God and put Him to open shame. (Heb. 6:4-6 NASB) From the Old Testament Ezek. 18:26 When a righteous man turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and dieth in them; for his iniquity that he hath done shall he die. In His Service New Creature |