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NASB | Luke 8:13 "Those on the rocky soil are those who, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no firm root; they believe for a while, and in time of temptation fall away. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Luke 8:13 "Those on the rocky soil are the people who, when they hear, receive and welcome the word with joy; but these have no firmly grounded root. They believe for a while, and in time of trial and temptation they fall away [from Me and abandon their faith]. |
Subject: One example of loosing salvation NT |
Bible Note: Hello NC! Well, I think you missed the point. How much CLEARER or EXPLICIT can Paul's KNOWLEDGE of the CERTAINTY of his salvation get than 2 Tim 4:18??? Let me suggest to you that you that no verse is an island unto itself. Proper hermaneutics are designed to allow God's word to say what it says and not what we want it to say. One of the rules is to always interpret the implicit (like John 15!!) with the explicit (2 Tim 4:18). Yet you refuse to consider that there ARE other viable interpretations to John 15 in light of ALL of Scripture. The Scripture is literally JAMPACKED with verses that support Perseverance of the Saints. So at best you are not being honest with the text, believing an apparent contradiction without any offer of resolution, resting solely on the interpretation of one verse and it's tradition of man. I hate contradictions. Contradictions are the antitheses of truth. If you really believe the Bible is true then reconcile the explicit teachings of 2 Tim 4:18 with John 15:6, for starters. Eagerly awaiting your response.... In Christ, Jibbs |