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NASB | Luke 8:13 "Those on the rocky soil are those who, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no firm root; they believe for a while, and in time of temptation fall away. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Luke 8:13 "Those on the rocky soil are the people who, when they hear, receive and welcome the word with joy; but these have no firmly grounded root. They believe for a while, and in time of trial and temptation they fall away [from Me and abandon their faith]. |
Subject: One example of loosing salvation NT |
Bible Note: NC, This was not my interpretation, but I agree with what it is expounding. However, I believe you're missing the main point of this article. Please don't throw the baby out with the bathwater here. We have to read this verse in context. What is the topic of the first part of John 15? There is no doubt that the context is "bearing fruit", well we know that only Christians can bear true fruit that remains. I believe you are taking this verse out of context if you are attempting to make the topic suddenly change to salvation. That is not what is being discussed. The context is fruit bearing. Compare the first part of John 15 with 1 Cor 3:11-15 where it speaks again of good fruit and bad fruit... it says, "For no one can lay any foundation other than the one already laid, which is Jesus Christ. If any man builds on this foundation using gold, silver, costly stones, wood, hay or straw, his work will be shown for what it is, because the Day will bring it to light. It will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test the quality of each man's work. If what he has built survives, he will receive his reward. If it is burned up, he will suffer loss; he himself will be saved, but only as one escaping through the flames." NOTICE: The that he himself will be saved, but only as one escaping THROUGH the flames. Even believers will pass through the consuming fire of God's judgement when it comes to our works. If they are wood, hay and stubble (a.k.a. bad fruit not done on the foundation of Christ) then they will be consumed and in the fire like a dead branch, however if they are gold, silver or costly stones they will not be consumed but will pass through the fire along with the individual who passes through the fire even if he didn't have any or much fruit, he will make it through the fire. That is scriptural and I want to warn you to seriously consider what is being said here. In Christ...Doug PS Please read my posting that was made Fri 07/11/03, at 2:37am. It may shed further light upon this topic. |