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NASB | Luke 8:13 "Those on the rocky soil are those who, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no firm root; they believe for a while, and in time of temptation fall away. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Luke 8:13 "Those on the rocky soil are the people who, when they hear, receive and welcome the word with joy; but these have no firmly grounded root. They believe for a while, and in time of trial and temptation they fall away [from Me and abandon their faith]. |
Subject: One example of loosing salvation NT |
Bible Note: Radioman Excellent Scripture However most of the verses you used to support your thoughts, deal with God's will. The other side of the coin which many fail to recognize or refuse to accept is; God gives us a will also. While God's will is irrevocable, our will can and does change. For instance: God will never leave or forsake us ever. That truly is God's will. Humans can say they will never forsake or forget you, but they often do. Thats the difference between God's perfect will, and our imperfect God given will. Even the verse you posted from John 5:24 AMP " the person whose ears are open to My words [who listens to My message] and believes and trusts in and clings to and relies on Him Who sent Me has (possesses now) eternal life." Notice in that verse our responsibility to cling to and rely on Him. It appears to me that many view faith as something that is passive. Nothing could be further from the truth. Faith in the life of the believer should be pro-active. Why else are we admonished to put our faith into action, or taught about how to practically apply what we are taught from God's word to our everyday life and walk? Salvation is in the present tense in John 5:24 which you quoted from the AMP Bible. I also notice that many who quote Bibical phrases such as "nothing shall separate us from the love of God, fail to understand that while it is true that nothing can separate us from the LOVE of God, sin can and does separate us from the LIFE of God which is in Christ Jesus. (Isaiah 59:2 says "sin separates us from God") But we know God loves sinners and sent His only Son to die for the sins, sinners commit. Paul said; Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners (1 Tim. 1:15) So even though sinners are separte from the LIFE of God, they are at no time separte from the LOVE of God. You have to take that into consideration when mediating upon Scripture. I still believe many have an ingrained pre-conceived bias on this topic which they no doubt learned from the teachings of certain denominations. Thats my opinion, but hopefully by God's grace He will permit me to remain teachable to what His Holy Spirit (not men) wants to teach me in my quiet time spent alone with God in prayer and in His word. In His service New Creature |