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NASB | Luke 8:13 "Those on the rocky soil are those who, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no firm root; they believe for a while, and in time of temptation fall away. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Luke 8:13 "Those on the rocky soil are the people who, when they hear, receive and welcome the word with joy; but these have no firmly grounded root. They believe for a while, and in time of trial and temptation they fall away [from Me and abandon their faith]. |
Subject: Predetermined or Free Will |
Bible Note: Hi, you wrote: "I don't believe that God has selected only a few ELECT people to have the opportunity to be saved." I believe in the biblical teachings on election (although your wording of it is pretty ambiguous), but the "once-saved-always-saved" doctrines are held by many on both sides of that debate. 'But back to once saved always saved. If that was true, why then all the warnings to guard your salvation?' Like where? "You mentioned Peter - What if he didn't repent but ran away instead?" What did Jesus say about this? "Simon, Simon, behold, Satan has demanded permission to sift you like wheat; but I have prayed for you, that your faith may not fail; and you, when once you have turned again, strengthen your brothers." --Luke 22:31-32 Seems like his "turning again" was certain. No "what if's" about it. 'Same for Saul - What if he said "Hey, I'd rather be blind than to promote that Jesus thing."?' What did the Lord say to Ananias? 'But the Lord said to him, "Go, for he is a chosen instrument of Mine, to bear My name before the Gentiles and kings and the sons of Israel; for I will show him how much he must suffer for My name's sake."' --Acts 9:15-16 Doesn't seem to be a consultation session with Paul to see what he thinks about it. God chose him, was going to use him to bear His name, and was going to show him how much he must suffer for the sake of Christ. God changed Paul in such a way that he would not walk away. "Some would argue that they [i.e. those who fall away]were never saved in the first place. I would then ask those people how they know that they are truly saved then?" By the changed life that God has wrought in me, and by the fruit that is in keeping with repentance, and by my continued trust in God's promises to preserve me for glory. --Joe! |