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NASB | Luke 8:13 "Those on the rocky soil are those who, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no firm root; they believe for a while, and in time of temptation fall away. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Luke 8:13 "Those on the rocky soil are the people who, when they hear, receive and welcome the word with joy; but these have no firmly grounded root. They believe for a while, and in time of trial and temptation they fall away [from Me and abandon their faith]. |
Subject: One example of loosing salvation NT |
Bible Note: Jibbs I agree with you those who are truly saved will live a life of obedience. I never said otherwise. True persevering and enduring faith, will prove to be genuine, and give evidence to it's genuineness by works and the fruit which it naturally produces. We are not saved by works, but faith produces the works. Good works can never earn salvation, but they must accompany it. Also Jesus Himself said; “My brothers and my sisters are those that HEAR God’s word and PUT IT INTO PRACTICE.” Luke 8:21 NIV You said you find my usuage of Hebrews 6:4-6 to be most curious. All I did was post it, because it is probably one of the most often quoted passages used to prove that "once saved, always saved" is not a Bibical teaching. So I will repost it, so you might be able to tell me in your opinion what it says. For in the case of those who have once been enlightened and have tasted of the heavenly gift and have been made partakers of the Holy Spirit, and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, and then have fallen away, it is impossible to renew them again to repentance, since they again crucify to themselves the Son of God and put Him to open shame. (Heb. 6:4-6 NASB) Finally you ask if I have ever fallen away? My answer is no, but I know some who appear to have, and have read stories of others who have. I have backslidden, at times, but thats not the same as a complete departing or apostasing away from the faith which when it happens that person cannot be renewed again. (Heb. 6:4-6) If you need more Scripture other than what I have already provided you with to prove that "once saved, always saved" as is being taught by many today is not Bibical, let me know, and I will also provide other Scripture for you to check out. Love in Christ New Creature |