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NASB | Luke 8:13 "Those on the rocky soil are those who, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no firm root; they believe for a while, and in time of temptation fall away. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Luke 8:13 "Those on the rocky soil are the people who, when they hear, receive and welcome the word with joy; but these have no firmly grounded root. They believe for a while, and in time of trial and temptation they fall away [from Me and abandon their faith]. |
Subject: One example of loosing salvation NT |
Bible Note: New Creature: I won't try to convince your from Scripture on the issue of the eternal security of the believer because, for starters, I have no idea of what kind of "convincing" you are looking for. What I hope to accomplish in this post is to present the biblical view of what eternal life means and let you take it from there. ... Throughout the New Testament when the new life in Christ Jesus is mentioned, it ALWAYS, without exception, either states explicitly or strongly implies that the new life in Christ is eternal life. Let's look at the most familiar verse in the Bible, John 3:16. It ends with the words, "...shall not perish but have eternal life." Consider the sheer number of references in the New Testament to the kind of life that Jesus gives His followers. God's eternal life is freely given by His grace. It in no wise depends one iota on how righteous we THINK we are or on how unrighteous our neighbors KNOW we are :-) We don't receive eternal life by our good works and it's equally certain we don't hold on to it by them either. What you are advocating is salvation by works, whether you are disposed to admit it or not. You may even say, "I believe we are saved by grace through faith in Christ, but we must maintain our salvation by our good works." If one espouses this belief, he must also conclude that since good works maintain salvation, conversely evil works will destroy it. This is tantamount to saying that God has the power to save but He doesn't have the power to hold those whom He saves. When we say that Satan has the power to snatch the redeemed out of the sheepfold of Christ, we are ascribing more power to Satan than we are to Christ. Some biblical passages that teach that all the redeemed once saved are kept by God's power and are thus secure in Christ forever are as follows: John 5:24; 6:37-40; 10:27-30; Romans 5:9,10; 8:1, 31-39; 1 Corinthians 1:4-9; Ephesians 4:30; Hebrews 7:25; 13:5; 1 Peter 1:4,5; Jude 24. ..... The problem with your position is that it allows for man to have a determining and decisive part in his salvation, a concept that the Bible never teaches. From Alpha to Omega, salvation is of God. He alone is sovereign, He alone saves, He alone keeps His flock secure for all eternity. --Hank |