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NASB | Luke 8:13 "Those on the rocky soil are those who, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no firm root; they believe for a while, and in time of temptation fall away. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Luke 8:13 "Those on the rocky soil are the people who, when they hear, receive and welcome the word with joy; but these have no firmly grounded root. They believe for a while, and in time of trial and temptation they fall away [from Me and abandon their faith]. |
Subject: One example of loosing salvation NT |
Bible Note: Hi New creature! You were asking about solid scriptural support for eternal security. You need not look any further than the character of God and His faithfulness to His own. After all, who is the author your faith? Who begins and starts it? Hebrews 12:1,2 make it clear Who the author is,it is Christ, the incarnate God. And what does Phil 1:6 Says, "He(Christ) who began a good work in you will finish it until His return". We can also turn to Romans 8 and see that nothing can seperate us from God's love, and yes this passage is dealing with salvation, contrary to other post seen in the forum. From Romans 1-8, Paul is building the case for justication by faith alone, in Christ alone, by Grace alone. You either believe the promises of God or you dont. It may be that encouragement is needed or that the new birth has never been experienced that results in this unbelief. The problem with eternal insecurity is that it has a low view of God, and in a sense is calling God a liar. And consequently it has a high view of man. Such is the condition of the fall, man thinks to highly of himself and wants autonomy over God. It was the problem in the garden and is the problem today. Scripture has to be interpreted in light of scripture and in its immediate and greater context. The passages often quoted to justify eternal insecurity are out of context and or have nothing to do with salvation per say. Heb 6 is often quoted. A careful study of that passage will reveal that Paul is presenting a hypothedical. If it were possible to loose your salvation,(which it isn't) then in would be impossible to renew yourself again unto repentance because you could never save yourself in the first place. And if you continue reading, you will see that Paul "is confident of better things"that this could never happen to those that are God's children.Why? because God's gifts and calling are irrevocable Romnans 11:29. In addition Eph 2:8-10 make it clear that faith is a gift given and credited by Him. It is also clear that if you can lose your salvation then knowingly or unknowlingly you believe in a works based salvation. See Eph 2:8-9, Titus 3:5 and all of Romans. There is absolutely nothing that you can offer or give to God for your salvation nor is there anything you can do to lose it. He is the author and center of our redemption and He will lose none. As for those in Luke, they were never saved in the first place. Millions, give lip service to belief in God or Christ, but do they believe God/Christ. There is a huge difference! Again, you either believe God and His promises or you dont. Matt 7:22 "Many will say to Me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?' May God's Grace be clearly seen as it is revealed in the Holy Writ. In Christ, Brad |