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NASB | Luke 8:13 "Those on the rocky soil are those who, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no firm root; they believe for a while, and in time of temptation fall away. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Luke 8:13 "Those on the rocky soil are the people who, when they hear, receive and welcome the word with joy; but these have no firmly grounded root. They believe for a while, and in time of trial and temptation they fall away [from Me and abandon their faith]. |
Bible Question (short): Please provide responses to these verses |
Question (full): NC, You won't be surprised that I totally disagree with Adam Clarke's exposition of John 15:6. It is clear Clarke interprets this judgement (casting into the fire) as the judgement for the sins of non-believers and those who could not muster up enough faith of their own. This is an unbiblical view and I totally disagree with this interpretation. As you are already aware, I believe this is the judgement of believers. It is not the judgement for their sins, but for their works. I think it is unfortunate that you feel that within yourself you had to do something to gain eternal life. You must believe this, if you feel you can do something to lose it. But eternal life is not YOUR work. It is the Work of God, within you. I have some challenges for you: I would like you to give me your perspective on the following verses which strongly support eternal security. Jer 32:40 I will make an everlasting covenant with them: I will never stop doing good to them, and I will inspire them to fear me, so that they will never turn away from me. NOTICE: ...so they will never turn away from me. What's your view on this verse? Here is another one for you: John 6:35-40 Then Jesus declared, "I am the bread of life. He who comes to me will never go hungry, and he who believes in me will never be thirsty. But as I told you, you have seen me and still you do not believe. All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never drive away. For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me. And this is the will of him who sent me, that I shall lose none of all that he has given me, but raise them up at the last day. For my Father's will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day." WHAT DID JESUS MEAN WHEN HE SAID, "I shall not lose none of them that he has given me"? Here is another verse that I would like to hear your views on: Jude 1:24 To him who is able to keep you from falling and to present you before his glorious presence without fault and with great joy-- NOTE: To say that we can fall from grace is to say that God is not able to keep us from falling… That is unbiblical. It contradicts Jude 1:24. I look forward to your responses for the verses provided above. Thanks…. In Christ….Doug |