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NASB | Luke 8:13 "Those on the rocky soil are those who, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no firm root; they believe for a while, and in time of temptation fall away. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Luke 8:13 "Those on the rocky soil are the people who, when they hear, receive and welcome the word with joy; but these have no firmly grounded root. They believe for a while, and in time of trial and temptation they fall away [from Me and abandon their faith]. |
Subject: examples of disobedient people who died |
Bible Note: Dear Ed, "Is the meaning of "all" important or is salvation important?" There are no unimportant words in the Bible. Of course, somethings are more important than others. I do consider the basis upon which we are saved an essential element of salvation; not because it determines salvation itself, but it shows why God alone is to be glorified for providing it. If we say that God makes salvation merely available, that opens the door to man who can take credit for the spark of goodness in prompting his choice. I will concede that true believers would never consider boasting, for in their hearts they know that their salvation was a work of God from top to bottom and from inside to out. It's a shame that their theology oft-times contradicts their experience. You said: "If either of us could supply conclusive proof to end this argument right now, we would, and what would be the result? Would that change either of our positions in the kingdom, would it draw others closer, would it hasten Jesus' second coming? The answer is no! I think that nets down to useless arguement in God's book." I would not presume to say what the outcome of an absolutely unified church would bring. But I do know it would be by God's providence and to His glory. John 3:27 John answered and said, "A man can receive nothing unless it has been given him from heaven. John |