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NASB | Luke 8:13 "Those on the rocky soil are those who, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no firm root; they believe for a while, and in time of temptation fall away. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Luke 8:13 "Those on the rocky soil are the people who, when they hear, receive and welcome the word with joy; but these have no firmly grounded root. They believe for a while, and in time of trial and temptation they fall away [from Me and abandon their faith]. |
Subject: One example of loosing salvation NT |
Bible Note: John As you well know there are two sides in this debate that has been on-going for hundreds of years. You have formed your opinions through Scripture, and I also have formed mine through prayerfully studying God's word to us. We could debate this endlessly but here is what the Bible in it's entirety says to me concerning the matter of "forsaking" The LORD is with you, while ye be with him; and if ye seek him, he will be found of you; but if ye forsake him, he will forsake you. 2 Chr. 15:2 because ye have forsaken the Lord, he hath also forsaken you. (2 Chr. 24:20) I will even forsake you saith the Lord. (Jer. 23:33) Therefore, behold, I, even I, will utterly forget you, and I will forsake you ... and cast you out of my presence. (Jer. 23:39) If you forsake him he will cast you off. (1 Chr. 28:9 Hosea 9:17) "Heb 13:5 he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee. This verse does not prove anything close to what people are trying to force their meaning to be. The truth is that Jesus will never leave us or forsake us, but we can leave or forsake Him. All these Scriptures are centered around God's actions and not the actions of the believer. God will never just decide to forsake any believer, ever! Yet, the believer may decide to forsake Him. Once a believer has forsaken God He then will give them up to themselves and forsake them. This does not contradict that He will never leave or forsake a believer, rather it affirms that God is not the one who does the forsaking. If we fall from the faith, it doesn’t reflect negatively upon God’s faithfulness, but rather on our unfaithfulness" (from an unknown source) New Creature |