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NASB | Luke 8:13 "Those on the rocky soil are those who, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no firm root; they believe for a while, and in time of temptation fall away. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Luke 8:13 "Those on the rocky soil are the people who, when they hear, receive and welcome the word with joy; but these have no firmly grounded root. They believe for a while, and in time of trial and temptation they fall away [from Me and abandon their faith]. |
Subject: One example of loosing salvation NT |
Bible Note: Greetings New Creature! I hope you don't mind if I jump in the conversation mid-way. You've said repeatedly that you don't see any "real Scriptural support" of the OSAS doctrine, but you were able to see it, you would be. Well, I would hope so. I also hope you are sincere in your desire to understand the OSAS perspective and even to embrace it in all it's glorious splendor. The doctrine itself is derived from the Glory of Christ. You wrote:"" I agree, God is the author of our salvation. He authored and initiated salvation not us. But what has that got to do with the topic of whether or not salvation can be forfeited or not? Is there not any more solid support from the Bible than what you have provided so far? Give me something solid."" You agree that God AUTHORED our salvation. Good for you! Many "Christians" would even debate that, surprisingly! But let's take a look at the verse itself to see what else it says: Heb 12:2 looking unto Jesus the author AND PERFECTOR of our faith, who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising shame, and hath sat down at the right hand of the throne of God. ,,,,AND PERFECTOR. Hmm... Would does that mean?? In Christ, JIBBS |