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NASB | Luke 8:13 "Those on the rocky soil are those who, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no firm root; they believe for a while, and in time of temptation fall away. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Luke 8:13 "Those on the rocky soil are the people who, when they hear, receive and welcome the word with joy; but these have no firmly grounded root. They believe for a while, and in time of trial and temptation they fall away [from Me and abandon their faith]. |
Subject: One example of loosing salvation NT |
Bible Note: Greetings New Creature! I apologize for jumping right into the middle of this thread! I respect your words and the fact that you are a busy person, so I will not keep you long. You have stated that the idea that a Christian’s salvation is secure is un-biblical. It seems (correct me if I am wrong) that the reason you state for believing this is through prayerful study of the Word. That is great! ;-) Lets come and reason from the Word!! As well, you state that folks who believe that a Christian cannot lose salvation are simply imposing pre-conceived teachings of certain denominations onto the Scriptures. Let me assure you, there are many people who believe things about the Word simply because their church teaches it, but there and many people as well, like me, who believe in this teaching because of what the Scriptures teach. I once believed a true, regenerate Christian could lose salvation, and I really believed it with all my heart! But just because my heart believed it does not make it true (Jer. 17:9). What makes a teaching true is whether the whole council of God’s Word teaches it. Therefore, I would argue from the Scriptures that a true, regenerate Christian cannot lose salvation. In fact, if a person is truly saved and is truly a new creation, they will not have the desire to leave the flock because they know their Shepherd, they will follow the Shepherd all of their days (John 10:14). Rather than type a huge post, I would encourage you to check out posts #88279 and #88451 where I have laid out some thoughts from the Word about this issue. I really hope you check them out and get back to me! If you want, you can send me an email, it’s in my profile. Many blessings to you New Creature!! ;-) In Christ, Joe |