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NASB | Luke 8:13 "Those on the rocky soil are those who, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no firm root; they believe for a while, and in time of temptation fall away. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Luke 8:13 "Those on the rocky soil are the people who, when they hear, receive and welcome the word with joy; but these have no firmly grounded root. They believe for a while, and in time of trial and temptation they fall away [from Me and abandon their faith]. |
Subject: Please provide responses to these verses |
Bible Note: NC, You said, God does not do our repenting or believing for us. So let me get this straight, YOU muster up the ablility to repent and believe? That is interesting when Scripture clearly tells us in 2 Tim 2:25-26 Those who oppose him he must gently instruct, in the hope that God will grant them repentance leading them to a knowledge of the truth,and that they will come to their senses and escape from the trap of the devil, who has taken them captive to do his will. NOTICE: Who GRANTS them repentance? It is clear that God does. The word GRANT in the greek means... means to give. It is a gift of God. Who should I believe? I am sorry but I have to believe Scripture! Then read what Scripture says about whose work it is to believe... The Jews asked Jesus what THEY must do to do the works that God requires. Jesus response is very revealing. He did not answer what work they must do, but He told them what the work of God is. John 6:28-29 Then they asked him, "What must we do to do the works God requires?" Jesus answered, "The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent." NOTICE: In order for us to believe it takes a work of God. Once again there is Phil 1:29 For it has been granted to you on behalf of Christ not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for him, Granted means to receive as a gift of God's grace. You were given the faith to believe in Him. It is the gift of God. You didn't muster up your own faith. Please don't boast in YOUR faith before the Lord! Your faith is the work of God. Then you said, How then do you explain the fact that Judas who was numbered with the other 11 apostles was lost. In what sense is this verse true? Judas may have been numbered with the disciples, However, in John 13:18 Jesus made it clear that Judas was not one of his chosen ones. When he said, "I am not referring to all of you; I know those I have chosen. But this is to fulfill the scripture: 'He who shares my bread has lifted up his heel against me.' The Bible does not contridict itself. Scripture must be interpreted with Scripture. That is why eternal security and the perseverance of the Saints is clearly taught in the Bible. Yours in Christ...Doug PS... Isn't your user name, New Creature come from 2 Cor 5:17? If this is true then don't you believe what it says? Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old has gone, the new has come! NOTICE: The old has GONE! That means GONE! Not to come back again! It touches on Eternal Security! Very interesting!! |