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NASB | Luke 8:13 "Those on the rocky soil are those who, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no firm root; they believe for a while, and in time of temptation fall away. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Luke 8:13 "Those on the rocky soil are the people who, when they hear, receive and welcome the word with joy; but these have no firmly grounded root. They believe for a while, and in time of trial and temptation they fall away [from Me and abandon their faith]. |
Subject: One example of loosing salvation NT |
Bible Note: New Creature, Further note in regards to John 15:6 speaking of destroying these branches: do you suppose he talking about the person or his bad fruit? I believe that he is talking about his fruit since this seems to be in line with the entire passage and in context with the topic which is about the branches that are "in Christ" and the main topic is bearing fruit. Verse 6 says, "If anyone does not remain in me, he is like a branch that is thrown away and withers; such branches are picked up, thrown into the fire and burned." I think it is important to remember that the one that is the gardner is the Father and if it is the Father that is gathering the branches and casting them into the fire, that seems to contradict John 5:22 that says...the Father judges no one, but has entrusted all judgment to the Son. I think that if you read John 15:6 in contrast with 1 Cor 3:12-15 it makes a lot more sense. The passage says, "If any man builds on this foundation using gold, silver, costly stones, wood, hay or straw, his work will be shown for what it is, because the Day will bring it to light. It will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test the quality of each man's work. If what he has built survives, he will receive his reward. If it is burned up, he will suffer loss; he himself will be saved, but only as one escaping through the flames." Notice that the he himself will be saved, but his (so-called) fruit was consumed. This fruit was the labor of his own flesh and it was not fruit that was done for the glory of God, but most likely it was done to be seen by man and for the glory of the man himself. We know that that man has received his reward. (Matt 6:16) John 15:6 can also be compared with Matt 5:13 where it says, "You are the salt of the earth. But if the salt loses its saltiness, how can it be made salty again? It is no longer good for anything, except to be thrown out and trampled by men." You have probably already considered all of these verses, but that is my take on this verse. I like how Pink ended his exposition on this verse with these heart searching words, He said....... "Here then is a most solemn warning and heart-searching prospect for every Christian. Either your life and my life is, as the result of continuous fellowship with Christ, bringing forth fruit to the glory of the Father, fruit which will remain; or, because of neglect of communion with Him, we are in immense danger of being set aside as His witnesses on earth, to bring forth only that which the fire will consume in a coming Day. May the Holy Spirit apply the words of the Lord Jesus to each conscience and heart." It is my prayer that when Christ does come back for us that He will he will find us faithful. Amen? In Christ....Doug |