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1 | Predetermined or Free Will | Luke 8:13 | jg8ball | 80904 | ||
I believe you're in category (b) because you choose to accept God's gift of salvation and not because God implanted in you the idea that that's the only choice you have. Why must you diminish God's free gift to all by spouting that His gift is only for the few Elect and that other people are destined to Hell and have no chance of salvation? Why can't you see that when they talk about the Elect in the Bible, they are referring to Belivers? Why can't you see that the predestination mentioned is that, thru Jesus, all people will have access to the Kingdom of God? I assume you too have read thru the bible many times (specifically the NT) looking at what the bible is actually saying and basing your interpretations on that and not on what you've been taught by others. And when doing so, you've been brave enough to question beliefs that may differ from what you've previously thought and investigate those differences until you find a solution that incorporates the bible as a whole - posibly even changing your views. If so, then maybe God has a reason for both of us to have differing viewpoints because I have done so and still find the Elect theory to be very flawed. Maybe my eyes are just closed for some reason but until God shows me where my interpretations are wrong, I have to stick with what He's shown me so far. I wish we could actually get together sometime and sitdown for a day or 10 and pray and study the scripture together. I think we would both come out enlightened. Your friend in Christ, John |
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2 | Predetermined or Free Will | Luke 8:13 | Reformer Joe | 80951 | ||
"I believe you're in category (b) because you choose to accept God's gift of salvation and not because God implanted in you the idea that that's the only choice you have." I know you do. "Why must you diminish God's free gift to all by spouting that His gift is only for the few Elect and that other people are destined to Hell and have no chance of salvation?" Not that I see it as diminishing anything, but I believe what I do because I am convinced it is what the Bible reveals. "Why can't you see that when they talk about the Elect in the Bible, they are referring to Belivers?" I see that perfectly. "Why can't you see that the predestination mentioned is that, thru Jesus, all people will have access to the Kingdom of God?" Because it isn't in the Bible that way. "Maybe my eyes are just closed for some reason but until God shows me where my interpretations are wrong, I have to stick with what He's shown me so far." And we will respectfully disagree. I don't think that your eyes have been closed, per se. James White of Alpha and Omega Ministries was once asked by a skeptic why there were so many denominations in Christianity. His answer makes a good amount of sense: denominations exist because we pick and choose what parts of the Bible we are going to believe. We are all guilty of that in one area or another, because our natural tendency is to try and make God into an idol that we are more comfortable with. When Christians sincerely disagree on an issue, the heart of that disagreement often stems from one or both refusing to let go of some preconceived notion about God and His attributes and the way He operates. I am undoubtedly guilty of that myself, but I am convinced otherwise in this case. "I wish we could actually get together sometime and sitdown for a day or 10 and pray and study the scripture together. I think we would both come out enlightened." Perhaps we would. My experience in most cases is that people just go away frustrated and angry. It would be nice to see less bitterness if we must differ. May God bless you! --Joe! |
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