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1 | Christ dying only for elect? | Rom 5:6 | Reformer Joe | 5921 | ||
With all due respect, you didn't answer question 2. Whose sins are the damned dying for? The same ones that Christ died for? --Joe! |
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2 | Christ dying only for elect? | Rom 5:6 | Makarios | 5925 | ||
With all due respect, Joe, the condemned are dying in their own sins- rest assured of that fact. However, I still hold that it cannot be refuted that Christ provided them with the opportunity not to endure hell, but they missed it and did not recognize that opportunity (being salvation in His Name). We are only here for 70 some years as human beings. Is not that a short time to determine what we will be doing for all eternity? I would pray that more would accept Christ, but that's not up to me but the Holy Spirit. | ||||||
3 | Christ dying only for elect? | Rom 5:6 | Reformer Joe | 5936 | ||
So then you are saying that Christ did not pay the penalty for their sins. Or He did and they are paying it again, which rendered Christ's payment ultimately useless. Or Christ's payment counted and the resident of Hell is paying the penalty again, which makes no sense at all with a just God. You also said that you believe that some can lose their salvation. That debate is outside the range of this thread, but let's assume for argument that this is the case. We have a sinner who accepts Christ. Therefore, Christ paid the penalty for his sins (both our views will acknowledge that Christ died for this individual). Then he loses his salvation. Does that mean that Christ paid the penalty and then didn't? It is these problems that lead me to reject limited atonement and to interpret Scripture to say that in many cases, the "world" does not mean every single individual who has ever or will ever live. What does atonement mean, after all? Finally, how is people accepting Christ up to the Holy Spirit? I thought in the Arminian view He provides all with prevenient grace, so salvation is ultimately up to the sinner who can accept or reject that prevenient grace? Think about what I am saying. If there is some logic that I am missing here, please bring it to my attention. Thanks, and God bless! --Joe! |
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4 | Christ dying only for elect? | Rom 5:6 | Makarios | 5940 | ||
Joe, you have raised some good questions that I have to ask and answer for myself, believing in an Arminian view on this subject. It is good that you are pointing out the supposed 'weak' points of my point of view. I will take your questions into deep consideration and see if I can or cannot come up with an answer. How does Calvinism answer each question that you have posted above? | ||||||