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NASB | Romans 5:6 ¶ For while we were still helpless, at the right time Christ died for the ungodly. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Romans 5:6 ¶ While we were still helpless [powerless to provide for our salvation], at the right time Christ died [as a substitute] for the ungodly. |
Bible Question (short): Who is the Potter? Who is the clay? |
Question (full): "On the contrary, who are you, O man, who answers back to God? The thing molded will not say to the molder, 'Why did you make me like this,' will it? Or does not the potter have a right over the clay, to make from the same lump one vessel for honorable use and another for common use? What if God, although willing to demonstrate His wrath and to make His power known, endured with much patience vessels of wrath prepared for destruction? And He did so to make known the riches of His glory upon vessels of mercy, which He prepared beforehand for glory" -- Romans 9:20-23 Now taking Romans 9:22 in context, do we have the slightest bit of wiggle room to suggest that we "prepared ourselves" for destruction? Who is the potter? Who is the clay? Who has the right over the clay? Who molds the clay as a vessel for common use? And, of course, the question Paul states at the beginning of the passage: Who are you to tell the Creator what to do with his creation? By the way, the Greek word KATARTIZO carries no such connotation of "self-preparation," but rather is a term used by artisans and architects which means to fit, or prepare. It is also used of framing something, of making something fit a particular area. All consistent with the Reformed view. Do we REALLY need the Greek to get the meaning of this when we have an abundance of crystal-clear context? This is what I mean by the mental somersaults people have to do to maintain an Arminian standpoint. --Joe! |