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NASB | Romans 5:6 ¶ For while we were still helpless, at the right time Christ died for the ungodly. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Romans 5:6 ¶ While we were still helpless [powerless to provide for our salvation], at the right time Christ died [as a substitute] for the ungodly. |
Bible Question: Can you give me specific verses concerning "Christ dyeing only for the elect"? |
Bible Answer: Re: The Bible Doctrine of Election. Some are trying to disprove a Bible doctrine -- election -- of which they have no knowledge or understanding. What attorney, professor or debater ever successfully disproved something of which he had absolutely no knowledge? An effective opponent of an idea would need to know all the main points and details of that idea before he could persuade others that the idea was false. It is obvious to me that most, if not all, the shrill anti-election people are clueless as to what election is and when, where and how the Bible speaks of the elect or election. If one is not even familliar with the terminology of that which he is debating, he will never convince anyone of anything. Election and people spoken of as the elect exist, according to the Bible, whether you and I believe or don't believe in the Bible doctrine of Election and regardless of how you define election. (Use a concordance and look up the words "elect" and "election." To set the record straight: 1) the word "freewill" is used 22 times in the NIV Bible. In every single reference the adjective freewill is used to modify the noun "offering(s)." So how does the Bible's use of the word freewill support the idea that the doctrine of election is false? 2) The dictionary defines the adjective "elect" as "chosen" or "carefully selected". So elect and chosen clearly mean the same thing. Some say "only a small portion of the Bible can be used to justify "election". For your information, while "freewill" occurs in the Bible (NIV) only 22 times and only in connection with the word "offering(s)", the word "elect" appears 11 times; "election" 3 times; "choose" (which means the same thing as "elect") appears 66 times; "chose" 45 times; and "chosen" 125 times. This gives us a total of 250 occurences of the words "elect", "election" (although not, in every instance, in connection with the Bible doctrine of Election ) or their equivalents choose, chose and chosen, but only 22 occurences of the word freewill, and then only in connection with offerings. There isn't one verse in the Bible which -- when properly translated and understood in the context and in relation to all other verses dealing with the same subject -- not one word that contradicts the Bible's teaching on the subject of election. The majority of nonbelievers in election are people who can neither define nor explain what it is that they are opposed to. It is apparent from the comments written by opponents of election that these people have not read the answers supporting election. They've neither read the answers, looked up the Scriptures cited, nor given the other side a fair hearing. |