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NASB | Romans 5:6 ¶ For while we were still helpless, at the right time Christ died for the ungodly. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Romans 5:6 ¶ While we were still helpless [powerless to provide for our salvation], at the right time Christ died [as a substitute] for the ungodly. |
Subject: Christ dying only for elect? |
Bible Note: So then you are saying that Christ did not pay the penalty for their sins. Or He did and they are paying it again, which rendered Christ's payment ultimately useless. Or Christ's payment counted and the resident of Hell is paying the penalty again, which makes no sense at all with a just God. You also said that you believe that some can lose their salvation. That debate is outside the range of this thread, but let's assume for argument that this is the case. We have a sinner who accepts Christ. Therefore, Christ paid the penalty for his sins (both our views will acknowledge that Christ died for this individual). Then he loses his salvation. Does that mean that Christ paid the penalty and then didn't? It is these problems that lead me to reject limited atonement and to interpret Scripture to say that in many cases, the "world" does not mean every single individual who has ever or will ever live. What does atonement mean, after all? Finally, how is people accepting Christ up to the Holy Spirit? I thought in the Arminian view He provides all with prevenient grace, so salvation is ultimately up to the sinner who can accept or reject that prevenient grace? Think about what I am saying. If there is some logic that I am missing here, please bring it to my attention. Thanks, and God bless! --Joe! |