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NASB | Romans 5:6 ¶ For while we were still helpless, at the right time Christ died for the ungodly. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Romans 5:6 ¶ While we were still helpless [powerless to provide for our salvation], at the right time Christ died [as a substitute] for the ungodly. |
Subject: Christ dying only for elect? |
Bible Note: Nolan, you are sounding dangerously Pelagian. I cannot distinguish the view you espouse here with the views of Pelagius, a British monk condemned as a heretic almost 1700 years ago. He basically said that Christ's work does not atone for anyone, it merely makes atonement possible. This is not what Scripture teaches. Christ's blood _pays for sin_, it _does not make payment possible_. Cf. Romans 3:25-26, 5:19, Hebrews 9:14, 10:14, Ephesians 1:11, 14, 5:2, II Corinthians 5:19, Colossians 5:20, John 17:2. These and many other verses do not speak of possibility they speak of accomplished fact. The atonement has been completed. Furthermore, the unforgivable sin _requires_ that there be at least some sins that Christ's atoning work does not cover. It doesn't even matter what you think that sin is, the fact that Scripture recognizes a category of sin that is outside the realm of God's forgiveness necessitates a limit to the atonement. Unless, that is, you wish to deny that Christ's death and resurrection really is an atonement. But you are not allowed to do that. This is a central tenet of the Christian faith, and to deny this is to be beyond question, a heretic. I know some will think ill of me for sounding so "harsh" on this point. But this is not something that is negotiable. Infant baptism vs. believers baptism is an issue worth discussing, even though I think that it has been settled in church history. But the atoning work of Christ may in no way be questioned. This is non-negotiable. |