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NASB | Romans 5:6 ¶ For while we were still helpless, at the right time Christ died for the ungodly. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Romans 5:6 ¶ While we were still helpless [powerless to provide for our salvation], at the right time Christ died [as a substitute] for the ungodly. |
Bible Question:
Orthodoxy, You seem to be confusing the Good News of the kingdom of God with your own personal dogma. This amounts to your condemning anyone that disagrees with the Gospel according to Orthodoxy. I see no evidence that our brother has denied the Christ or blasphemed the Holy Spirit, only that he disagrees with you on the doctrine of election. Can you not discuss this issue without ranting, accusations of heresy, and condemnation of a fellow Christian? Praise the Lord! |
Bible Answer: Hmm. So the very nature of the atonement doesn't count as "the Good News of the Kingdom of God?" May I ask what does? As far as Paul is concerned, saying that Christ's death is not an actual atonement _is_ denying Christ. He calls everyone that differs on matters of the gospel to be eternally damned. Mr. Keck suggested something that would alter the very nature of the atonement, shifting it from an accomplished fact to a realizable possibility. That counts as pretty fundamental, and I will defend it to the death. |