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NASB | Romans 5:6 ¶ For while we were still helpless, at the right time Christ died for the ungodly. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Romans 5:6 ¶ While we were still helpless [powerless to provide for our salvation], at the right time Christ died [as a substitute] for the ungodly. |
Subject: Christ dying only for elect? |
Bible Note: I disagree with your theory of predestination and cannot walk away from your above post without being outright confused by how you feel about this subject.God is sovereign, omniscient and all knowing (one point in which we agree, I hope). This includes knowing the eternal destiny of every man's spirit after they die. (Still in agreement?) Is it not correct that we are alive today on the earth? If we are, are there people that are getting saved every day? If so, then why? Why weren't they saved yesterday? Would have people in foreign lands have been saved if it were not for the efforts of our brothers and sisters who minister to them every day (missionaries)? If every one is 'predestined', then why are missionaries wasting their time? What is the point of planting a seed, watering it and watching it grow? Where is the harvest? Oh I see it now!! We should just sit by and watch the harvest die, without showing them access to the Way that will save them. They are predestined right? They will turn to God on their own, we don't need to worry about them.. They are all predestined to hell anyways, right?If the unsaved in my own family are predestined to hell, then should I give up on praying for their salvation, being a Christian witness to them and showing them love in Jesus' name? I shouldn't even bother, they are all predestined to hell anyways.Where is the love in that? The whole idea of predestination is full of pride. Are you seriously any better than anyone else? Do you not know the criteria to becoming saved? You made a decision- to follow Christ. And this is the best decision that you could ever make! Have you ever sang the song, "I have decided to follow Jesus"? No turning back, no turning back. You could have become an atheist like several people I know. In fact, one of my atheist friends decided to choose Christianity instead, and I know that he could probably argue against your point a lot more solidly than I ever could.But all atheists are predestined to hell anyways, so there is no need at all to try to witness to them. |