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1 | Christ dying only for elect? | Rom 5:6 | jesusfreak508@aol.com | 58493 | ||
Jesus restored to us the place where we were before Adam chose to not believe God. Now we get to make the choice for ourselves. But you can easily do just what Adam did and choose to not believe God. The only difference is that you are only responsible for your own fall. Think of it as sin is a debt (Jesus did say "It is finished" which is what the Romans put on the documents of debts, or sentences, when they were paid). A debt puts you on the negative side of zero on the number line. Jesus paid for our sins, putting us back at zero. Accept the "free" gift and you get a credit, salvation, and you are on the positive side of zero on the number line. |
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2 | Christ dying only for elect? | Rom 5:6 | inHzsvc | 58726 | ||
If you are at zero, you don't owe a debt. There's nothing to accept. If Christ paid for your sins, they are paid. There's no positive, negative, and zero. There's sinners who will pay they're debt because they didn't believe the gospel and those who trusted in the Savior Who paid they're debt for them. There is not a single verse of Scripture that teaches Christ put us back where Adam was before the fall. The Bible says, "we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us." Adam was innocent for he had no knowledge of good and evil. We are not that. |
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3 | Christ dying only for elect? | Rom 5:6 | jesusfreak508@aol.com | 58737 | ||
What Adam lost in his body is what Christ restored in His body. Adam was instructed. He chose not to believe God; not to believe those instuctions. He had that choice and he made it. We have been instructed. We each can choose not to believe, not to believe those instructions. That's our choice and we make it. The prophecy of Jer31:33-34 is what I believe was restored to our heart's by Jesus and it say "all" will get it. Paul says as all were brought to death through/by Adam, all are restored by Jesus. I believe it was that awareness of God that was restored. Adam had it, we didn't until Jesus. Now we do. Now we are like Adam. We have the choice. Adam was ignorant for he had no knowledge of death, but I'd have to argue his innocence. The Bible says Woman was deceived into sin, but Adam was with her so he was hearing the same arguments the devil was giving her. I'd say he lost his innocence when he listened to that snake and took the fruit from his woman. The decision was made to do it before he ever reached out his hand to take it. If you lust in your heart you are guilty of adultery, so why would that premise not be true here? You are saying Adam didn't know it was wrong. Or that he didn't know wrong, disobedience, was evil? He knew he wasn't supposed to eat that fruit and he did it. I'd just as soon not get into any more debates where the response is basically 'you stupid unbeliever, you're going to burn, you have no right, yada yada yada' so if you can't instruct gently, please don't respond. Trust in the Spirit that I'll get to Truth as long as I seek it deligently with prayer, and pray for me, but don't write! However, if you have a gentle spirit and a genuine desire to instruct me, I look forward to hearing from you. In Christ, Melanie |
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