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1 | Not my will? | Rom 5:6 | jesusfreak508@aol.com | 58680 | ||
lol I'm a stay at home mom with 5 children, 2 who are grown and have 2 grandchildren. We are active in our tiny little church and live on a horse farm. Our joy is in the Lord and He never disappoints. We are strong in Him and the power of His might even through our trials. My husband, kids, and church family are going to be as amused as I am to learn that anyone considers me a feminist! Especially as in my women's Sunday School class and the youth groups where I counsel submission to the Lord and women to their husbands and fathers and it always brings on lovely lively debates and discussions. But if you aren't up to the debate I perfectly understand. Ah well. I was actually hopeful for a time of having a lively learning debate here on this forum. Why is it that so many here only see this forum as a venue insult or condemn or just have their view points reaffirmed? Ah well. God bless. |
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2 | Not my will? | Rom 5:6 | bartay | 58748 | ||
If I was wrong I apoligise. However, by the tone of your last note it certainly appeared to be gender slanted rather than holisticly human. The whole free will debate revolves around man being an independant participater in the fight between good and evil. This is not true, either we do what God wants of us or we die being a servant to Satanic law. Jesus when he was tempted by the Devil had no choice to make. Because he was from God he was naturally going to do what God wanted of him. If he did decide to make a choice it would have been to go along with the Devils' temptations. However because he didn't give in to temptation, because he was following God, there was no choice to make. If however he decided by using his own mind, rather than God's scriptures in his word, to succumb to the temptation, then he would have been sinning. Which concludes that free will thinking is sinful because it goes against God's will. |
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3 | Not my will? | Rom 5:6 | Morant61 | 58757 | ||
Greetings Bartay! I have heard many definitions of free will, but this one is new to me! :-) My understanding of free will has always been fairly simple. Obviously, there are many things in life that one cannot choose. One cannot choose when one is born, or where! One cannot choose many of the circumstances which occur during ones life - if I could, I would have scripted my life much differently! :-) However, free will does not mean that one is all-powerful. It simply means that circumstances alone, nor God, compels me to do something against my will. Thus, man can choose to obey God or disobey God. However, man cannot escape the consequences of those choices. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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4 | Not my will? | Rom 5:6 | bartay | 58873 | ||
Hi Tim, One cannot choose to obey God, because not obeying means you have freely chosen not to. Perhaps if we see life as something God has created for each person. To see God in charge of each and every situation takes away any responsibility for us to think about. So one doesn't have to free willingly obey God, one only has to follow God, for to not follow God leads to eternal death. If however we decide through free will thinking to not follow God then we sin, and the wages of sin is death. Perhaps we all see God and his word as a joke that will not come to fruition, I am sure the two in the Garden believed that after the Serpent had said, "you will not die." Their deaths were not immediate but were certainly imminent in the future scheme of things. Jesus never done or said anything that did not come from his Heavenly Father first. He was constantly in touch through prayer and belief that all that God had set out to do in his plan for salvation would come to pass. Bartay |
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5 | Not my will? | Rom 5:6 | coffee | 58877 | ||
Dear Bartay, Please do not misunderstand me for I am not trying to attack you - You have contradicted yourself in your first sentence. Maybe you see 'follow' and 'free will' as two different things. Do you understand that Jesus had a choice? Do you understand that Jesus chose to obey His FATHER? To follow, to obey is to choose to do so. If you choose to follow you are following the will of GOD. If you choose not to you are following your own will. It seems to me you have agreed with Tim but just use a different language. Ah I just read a previous post and it would seem that you believe Jesus didn't have a choice. Do you not have a choice with your own earthly Father? Do you think your Father loves you more than GOD? Dear Bartay it is a choice and GOD already knows the choice you will make. HE knows and loves you to your very core. As Melanie here in the forum put it, HE is not after you with a baseball bat (or something like that), it is only us humans that do that. May HE bless you always Bartay, luv deb |
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6 | Not my will? | Rom 5:6 | bartay | 58879 | ||
Hi deb If my Father said to me, I have set up a lifestyle here for you and you will be lacking in nothing. You will have peace happiness and a wonderful life. There is one thing however that I don't want you to do, do not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good or evil. If you however choose to do so you will be banished from this heavenly place and you will die. Now I had no choice in what my Father had set up for me. I didn't have to say I will obey everything you have asked of me. However, if I wanted to sin and disobey my Father I would have to choose to ignore everything he had done to give me a good life and decide to eat from the tree of good and evil. The free willed choice is sin. Barry |
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7 | Not my will? | Rom 5:6 | coffee | 58880 | ||
Dear Barry, I am not going to deny what you say here - you are simply saying it in a different way and that's fine with me. In Jesus, deb |
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