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1 | Christ dying only for elect? | Rom 5:6 | inHzsvc | 6428 | ||
Well, I only use "Calvinism" as a term. I do not necessarily agree with Calvin on everything, nor, do I think he was right about everything. I don't see how you can say that men have debated without coming to a conclusion. I have come to the conclusion that the Doctrines of Grace are true--that Total Depravity, Unconditional Election, Particular Redemption, Effectual Calling, and Eternal Security are true. They are Scriptural. There is no Scripture, therefore, that goes against them because the Scripture doesn't contradict itself. Now, if other people disagree, that doesn't mean that the conclusion that I came to is wrong. It could mean that they are wrong and the Scripture is right. I will say this, if you believe what you said above, you must be more of a Calvinist than an Arminian because the Arminian doesn't believe the things you said you did. Remember, the definition of "grace" is "unmerited favor." Even when we deserved what the world deserves, God saved us without any merit on our part. God bless, and, thanks for disagreeing, agreeably. |
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2 | Can you see my position? | Rom 5:6 | EdB | 6434 | ||
See here is the problem you said you read scripture and it says your right. I say you read scripture wrong. Example 2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance. I see "all" and to me "all" means all. You say however that "all" only means the ones that God elected. Now we can debate this scripture from here until tomorrow and I will probably continue to see all will see only those called. Who is wrong? If your in my camp you are. If your in your camp I am. Does that mean one of us is in sin. I think not that means one of us sees a passage different. It really doesn't change anything as far as the work of the cross. It just makes us think the other can't read. |
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3 | Can you see my position? | Rom 5:6 | inHzsvc | 6446 | ||
Surely you can read this passage and see that the all is referring back to the "us" (KJV). "The LORD is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but, is longsuffering to USWARD, not willing that any (of the USWARD--INHZSVC) should persish" | ||||||
4 | Can you see my position? | Rom 5:6 | EdB | 6452 | ||
First Us-ward is not a word. If it was I can find no definition so I have no idea in the world what it means. If your going to tell me it means 'saved people', then I must say prove it. Most reliable translations has 'you' in it's place. Since this is the Lockman forum let's for the sake of unity use the NASB which reads "The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance." I read "you" as being the reader of this scripture. And being a reader of the scripture does not make one saved. If it was just talking about the saved and God saved everyone why would He have to have patience? All God would have to do is make everyone saved. No waiting required. An interesting side bar to this discussion is the New Living Translation of this verse, “The Lord isn't really being slow about his promise to return, as some people think. No, he is being patient for your sake. He does not want anyone to perish, so he is giving more time for everyone to repent.” Notice the word “everyone”. |
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5 | Can you see my position? | Rom 5:6 | inHzsvc | 6454 | ||
No, thanks. I'll stick to the Authorized version. | ||||||
6 | Can you see my position? | Rom 5:6 | EdB | 6457 | ||
Okay, what does the word mean and no fair looking at JVH0212's answer. And if you do who is 'us'? Us the readers or us the saved reading this passage? | ||||||