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1 | Please explain your position | Rom 5:6 | inHzsvc | 6348 | ||
I Tim. 2:4 is showing that God has a people from every nation, kindred, tribe and tongue. The Jews rejected the Gentiles who professed faith in Christ. John Gill says of this verse, "since it is not his will that all men, in this large sense, should be saved, unless there are two contrary wills in God; for there are some who were before ordained by him unto condemnation, and are vessels of wrath fitted for destruction; and it is his will concerning some, that they should believe a lie, that they all might be damned; nor is it fact that all are saved, as they would be, if it was his will they should; for who hath resisted his will? but there is a world of ungodly men that will be condemned, and who will go into everlasting punishment: rather therefore all sorts of men, agreeably to the use of the phrase in "#1Ti 2:1" are here intended, kings and peasants, rich and poor, bond and free, male and female, young and old, greater and lesser sinners; and therefore all are to be prayed for, even all sorts of men, because God will have all men, or all sorts of men, saved; and particularly the Gentiles may be designed, who are sometimes called the world, the whole world, and every creature; whom God would have saved, as well as the Jews, and therefore Heathens, and Heathen magistrates, were to be prayed for as well as Jewish ones. Moreover, the same persons God would have saved, he would have also "come to the knowledge of the truth": of Christ, who is the truth, and to faith in him, and of all the truth of the Gospel, as it is in Jesus; not merely to a notional knowledge of it, which persons may arrive unto, and not be saved, but a spiritual and experimental knowledge of it; and all that are saved are brought to such a knowledge, which is owing to the sovereign will and good pleasure of God, who hides the knowledge of Gospel truths from the wise and prudent, and reveals them to babes: whence it appears, that it is not his will with respect to every individual of mankind; that they should thus come to the knowledge of the truth; for was it his will they should, he would, no doubt, give to every man the means of it, which he has not, nor does he; he suffered all nations to walk in their own ways, and overlooked their times of ignorance, and sent no message nor messenger to inform them of his will; he gave his word to Jacob, and his statutes unto Israel only; and the Gospel is now sent into one part of the world, and not another; and where it does come, it is hid to the most; many are given up to strong delusions to believe a lie, and few are savingly and experimentally acquainted with the truths of the Gospel; though all that are saved are brought to the knowledge of such truths as are necessary to salvation; for they are chosen to it through sanctification of the Spirit, and belief of the truth. II Peter 3:9 is simple if it was just read clearly and concentration was put on the entire verse besides just the latter phrase. The promise in the verse is to "usward" not willing that any (usward) should perish. This is speaking of the security of the believer. Rev. 2:21 really has nothing to do with what you are trying to prove. God has given all men room to repent. They are guilty for not having repented. God didn't keep anybody from repenting--they're own depravity kept them from it. Thanks for the interst. God bless. |
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2 | Can you mean this? | Rom 5:6 | EdB | 6391 | ||
inHzsvc, John Gill must be a lawyer (getting paid by word count) :). Obviously I'm of not of the Calvinistic bent, in that I believe God makes us choose, either to follow Him or the lies of Satan. Since you believe we don't have a choice would you explain what Satan is doing? I mean if we can't be deceived because we don't have a choice then what is Satan doing by seeking whom he can deceive? Also Matthew 25:41 seems to imply, at least to me, that the lake of fire was made for Satan and his demons and humans only go there should they reject the gospel of Jesus Christ. You on the other hand must believe that not to be true. If we logically think through your position God created the Lake of Fire for Satan, his demons, and the whole race of people God created to throw in there also. So much for mercy! | ||||||
3 | Can you mean this? | Rom 5:6 | JonnyRay49423 | 6403 | ||
I am a Calvinist and just because I believe I am one of the elect does not mean I do use the "means of grace"-Because I know I can be deceived by the devil causes me to study the Bible-to stay under sound biblical preaching-to be under the oversight of godly elders-I also take comfort in knowing satan has not authority over me-when the Lord saved me I came under His kingly rule-He is my prophet,priest and king. The Lord purchased me by His precious blood and will not allow satan to deceive me-I have been redeemed and belong to the Lord. The purpose of salvation is to bring glory to God-also God will be glorified by satan and the reprobate in hell. God's mercy is seen in that He determined to save some by the cross death of His only-begotten Son the Lord Jesus Christ. |
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4 | Can you mean this? | Rom 5:6 | jim | 6404 | ||
Where did all of the different groups come from? In the beginning Peter who was the spokesman for the church preached the first message. At that time there were Jews and Romans in Isreal, He told us how to get started in our relationship with God and it seems they followed that teaching and then someone decided that something needed to be changed. It seems like that which ever group is in charge they make the rules for other groups to live by. For instance History is full of groups slaying others because they did not beleive like them, power can be dangerous. We all callourselves some name but know this one thing God just has ONE Church. Search the scriptures for they speak of Jesus and Eternal Life Jim | ||||||
5 | Can you mean this? | Rom 5:6 | EdB | 6420 | ||
That is a very interesting question. One that probably should have been asked 500 years ago. Basically your right Peter set the course if you will, then in about 300 AD Christianity was declared the state religion of Rome and all kinds of weird and unholy doctrine started to come in. Around this time in 350 AD the Bishop of Rome declared himself the head of the church and things started going down hill even faster. Finally in the 1500's the corruption of the church was so rampant that finally a man stood up and said enough. Soon men from every thought and persuasion where shouting to be heard. What you said about power was also true, the ones in power decided what was correct. Not through reason but rather by force. Many men on all sides burned at the stake. Today we are much more civilized we don’t burn people we call them heretics, we ridicule them, debase and mock them, and we even call them lost. How sad it all is when we look at what Jesus wanted. He told us to go make disciples, to be his witness and to share the Good News with the rest of the world. Instead we argue if should baptize infants or not, whether we should sprinkle, dip or drown. We fight about salvation through election or free will, then we argue whether we can loss our salvation or not. And everyone claims to be hearing from God on whatever point it is they stand upon. Maybe we should take a lesson from Acts 15 and let the Apostles decide. By that I mean maybe we should be re-reading first century church history and doing and teaching exactly what they did. If the question we ask isn’t answered by scripture or early church history then maybe we are asking the wrong question. Think about it, before the reformation fractured the church Christianity controlled most of the civilized world. I’m not saying the church at that time was correct, I’m saying they had unity of purpose which the church does not have today. |
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