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1 | Christ dying only for elect? | Rom 5:6 | Makarios | 6318 | ||
The first option, "Christ paid for the sins of all men" does not imply that all men will go to heaven because their sins are paid for, since Christ's work on the cross makes it possible for all people to come to salvation (John 12:32) and judgment to fall on those who reject Christ (John 12:48). 1 Timothy 2:4 expresses God's desire that all be saved, but does not promise that all will be. This divine desire is only realized in those who exercise faith in Christ (Acts 16:31).So the first option would be the correct reasoning after all. | ||||||
2 | Christ dying only for elect? | Rom 5:6 | orthodoxy | 6347 | ||
Nolan, you are sounding dangerously Pelagian. I cannot distinguish the view you espouse here with the views of Pelagius, a British monk condemned as a heretic almost 1700 years ago. He basically said that Christ's work does not atone for anyone, it merely makes atonement possible. This is not what Scripture teaches. Christ's blood _pays for sin_, it _does not make payment possible_. Cf. Romans 3:25-26, 5:19, Hebrews 9:14, 10:14, Ephesians 1:11, 14, 5:2, II Corinthians 5:19, Colossians 5:20, John 17:2. These and many other verses do not speak of possibility they speak of accomplished fact. The atonement has been completed. Furthermore, the unforgivable sin _requires_ that there be at least some sins that Christ's atoning work does not cover. It doesn't even matter what you think that sin is, the fact that Scripture recognizes a category of sin that is outside the realm of God's forgiveness necessitates a limit to the atonement. Unless, that is, you wish to deny that Christ's death and resurrection really is an atonement. But you are not allowed to do that. This is a central tenet of the Christian faith, and to deny this is to be beyond question, a heretic. I know some will think ill of me for sounding so "harsh" on this point. But this is not something that is negotiable. Infant baptism vs. believers baptism is an issue worth discussing, even though I think that it has been settled in church history. But the atoning work of Christ may in no way be questioned. This is non-negotiable. |
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3 | Christ dying only for elect? | Rom 5:6 | Percival | 6442 | ||
Orthodoxy, I daresay some will be surprised at what God thinks is 'negotiable' on that day. Especially when we are discussing the grace of our Lord and Savior. Praise the Lord! |
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4 | Christ dying only for elect? | Rom 5:6 | orthodoxy | 6473 | ||
Allow me to quote Paul: But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned! As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let him be eternally condemned! I think that speaks for itself, don't you? |
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5 | Accusations obligatory? | Rom 5:6 | Percival | 6487 | ||
Orthodoxy, You seem to be confusing the Good News of the kingdom of God with your own personal dogma. This amounts to your condemning anyone that disagrees with the Gospel according to Orthodoxy. I see no evidence that our brother has denied the Christ or blasphemed the Holy Spirit, only that he disagrees with you on the doctrine of election. Can you not discuss this issue without ranting, accusations of heresy, and condemnation of a fellow Christian? Praise the Lord! |
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6 | Accusations obligatory? | Rom 5:6 | jim | 6494 | ||
Praise the Lord this has been one long subject. According to Rom 3:23 we all are sinners, Rom 5:8 says Christ died for us while we were sinners. and Rev 13:8 refers to a Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. Do we need to be one of the Elect to enter the Kingdom of God. Then if we do it seems we must be born again. How else can we enter into God's Kingdom Keep studying thr Word. Jim Study the Word of God for in it is words of Life | ||||||