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1 | Christ dying only for elect? | Rom 5:6 | inHzsvc | 5931 | ||
You must understand the legal part of the whole. Sin is "illegal." If Christ paid for our sins, God would be requiring double payment if we died and went to hell. If somebody paid off your home mortgage, it would be paid--you'd owe nothing more. If Christ paid for all of the sins of all men, what will some be in hell for? Unbelief? Is that not a sin that Christ died for? I hope so--we were all born in unbelief. So, again, what are some going to be in hell for? Because they didn't "accept" the payment? Does that matter if the debt has already been paid? Again, Christ legally died for some and they will be saved. All are responsible for rejecting because they did exactly what they wanted to. God bless. |
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2 | Christ dying only for elect? | Rom 5:6 | Makarios | 6039 | ||
We shouldn't confuse the legal aspect of this argument with what exactly Christ did for us on the cross. He died for all of man's sin (Luke 19:10, John 1:29, 1 Timothy 4:10, Hebrews 2:9, Romans 5:18). Therefore, Christ died for all the sins of all men on the cross. If you make the argument that those who reject Christ are paying for their sins in hell even though Christ already paid for it, then YES!! Yes, they are paying for their own sin 'twice' (according to your faulty Calvinistic reasoning) even though Christ already died for it on the cross. They failed to accept the grace that was offered to them by the Lord Jesus Christ. But you make the false claim that Christ died for nothing- He has possession of all of us who accept Him as Lord and Savior as His people- so you can see that He did not die for nothing. Don't worry, Joe (Reformer Joe), I have all of your answers ready and will get to you when I have the time. | ||||||
3 | Christ dying only for elect? | Rom 5:6 | inHzsvc | 6043 | ||
What you are doing is limiting the power of the blood of Christ. You are saying that it was not sufficient in itself to save sins--it had to have the faith of people added to it. Your limiting of the atonement is far worse than the Calvinistic limiting of it. The Calvinist believes that Christ surely "saved His people from their sins"(Mat. 1:21). You're reasoning says that Christ's death actually accomplished nothing and it will only accomplish if man will "let" God save him. Where is the Scripture where God ever "tried" to save somebody and they wouldn't Him? Where is the Scripture that says anybody whom Christ paid their sin debt will die and go to Hell? Again, what will the people be in Hell for--unbelief? Is this not a sin that Christ died for? I am not the one saying sins will be paid for twice. They will not. Either Christ died for them or the sinner will suffer for them eternally. May God add His richest blessings to His Word. |
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4 | Christ dying only for elect? | Rom 5:6 | jesusfreak508@aol.com | 58495 | ||
John 3:16 says you have to believe. Jesus in His parables (in Matthew as it happens) says straight up that some just won't get it. And doesn't the Bible also say that many will love their flesh more than Jesus, even in the end of days when God is pouring out His wrath? There are your scriptures. |
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5 | Christ dying only for elect? | Rom 5:6 | inHzsvc | 58727 | ||
I agree that people must believe. However, this is only possible by the regenerating power of the Holy Spirit. Faith is a gift of God (Eph. 2:8). Jesus not only says some "won't get it," He says some can't get it because they are not of His sheep. God bless. |
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6 | Christ dying only for elect? | Rom 5:6 | jesusfreak508@aol.com | 58738 | ||
Where does He say some can't get it? Genuine query. Don't bite my head off. Melanie |
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