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1 | Holy Spirit's power of Conviction | Rom 5:6 | Reformer Joe | 5851 | ||
Surely you don't think that Paul hypothetically using the excuse, "Who resists His will?" implies that there is any individual who can answer in the affirmative. This whole chapter is Paul defending divine election against the very accusations that free-will folks make against it. Who resists His will? The understood answer by both the hypothetical question-asker, and also Paul is agreed to be "No one." Read the previous verses to see why anyone would want to use that fact as an excuse. You see, if you sit down and read Romans, Paul uses hypothetical objections to the gospel in the form of questions to expound God's message Let's not change the subject to what Reformed theology believes about Israel. There are plenty of people who hold to Calvin's unconditional election who disagree on this, so it is not germane. In addition, this thread is starting to take up a great deal of my time, and the posts herein are quite sufficient to let others determine who is exegeting correctly. I warmly offer you the last word if you should decide to reply, and thanks for the debate! --Joe! |
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2 | Holy Spirit's power of Conviction | Rom 5:6 | Chris | 5856 | ||
10 And not only so, but also Rebekah conceiving of one, our father Isaac, 11 for the children not yet being born, nor having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of the One calling, 12 it was said to her, "The greater shall serve the lesser;" 13 even as it has been written, "I loved Jacob, and I hated Esau." Paul goes further, just because you are the son of Isaac GOD still has the right to choose who the promise will pass to. Offering the promise was GOD's choice, therefore He is not bound to offer it to anyone he does not want to. The point is, that GOD is not bound to save all Jews, just because they are Jews!(By the by, this belief is still held by those in the Jewish faith.) 14 ¶ What then shall we say? Is there not unrighteousness with God? Let it not be! Paul is again speaking to Jews by considering that they probably think that this is not just! 15 For He said to Moses, "I will have mercy on whomever I will have mercy, and I will pity whomever I will pity." 16 So, then, it is not of the one willing, nor of the one running, but of the One showing mercy, of God. Paul gives Jews proof from their own Law that GOD is not breaking His promises in not saving all Jews. 17 For the Scripture says to Pharaoh, "For this very thing I raised you up, so that I might show forth My power in you, and so that My name might be publicized in all the earth." 18 So, then, to whom He desires, He shows mercy. And to whom He desires, He hardens. GOD can do anything he wants! I do believe that, I don't know if Calvinist understand that this is true of those who hold a different view of election, and Arminians. We disagree on WHAT GOD wants to do. You say He wants to save some and damn others, I say He wants to offer all people an opportunity to receive salvation, and all who accept His offer will receive salvation. Also, if you read these examples in the O.T. you will find that GOD is abundantly merciful, and that Egypt's fate was sealed in Genesis, when GOD says that the nation Abraham's decendents would go to will be punished for their treatment of the Jews. GOD could punish people for no reason, but the O.T. suggests that He chooses not to. 19 You will then say to me, Why does He yet find fault? For who has resisted His will? Notice this is not a rhetorical question by Paul! He is anticipating the question by the Jews. My reading of Romans suggest to me that Paul either answers his teaching question, "GOD forbid," or he asks them with a negative Greek punctuation, this is shown in the NASB with a 'will he?' at the end of these questions, or He asks them himself. I don't remember many examples where he asks them for other people and doesn't clearly say 'GOD forbid' or the Greek punctuation. I may be wrong! |
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