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1 | Not my will? | Rom 5:6 | bartay | 5741 | ||
The predestination is a calling of God to those whom he has chosen to be called. He says, if you eat of the tree of life, and ignore the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, you will live. If you decide to disregard what I am telling you, and decide that you through your own wisdom can live forever, you will die. To believe anything, or anyone, besides God, will result in eternal death. So predestination is not just being called, but believing the path the Lord directs to obtain eternal life, is the only way. To try and use self willed knowledge to obtain eternal life will bring failure. So it is thy will be done. I would rather be a eternal puppet serving the Lord, than a lost for all eternity self willed person. bartay |
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2 | Not my will? | Rom 5:6 | Reformer Joe | 5762 | ||
Predestination inevitably leads to regeneration and belief in Christ, but predestination and belief are not the same thing. Predestination is wholly God's decision (Ephesians 1:11). Belief is the response elicited from us after the Holy Spirit regenerates an individual who has been predestined. --Joe! |
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3 | Not my will? | Rom 5:6 | bartay | 5793 | ||
If predestination inevitably leads to regeneration, (I imagine you mean rebirth) and belief in Christ. Why then do we have the scripture that many are called but few are chosen? (Matthew 22:14)This would seem to me to be saying that all who are called, (predestined) will not be chosen because of unbelief. We also have those who come to Christ believing they were entitled to enter the Kingdom of Heaven. They said, Lord, Lord, we have prophesied, cast out demons, and done many wonderful things in your name. Jesus said, get away from me, I never knew you; depart from me you evildoers bartay |
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4 | Not my will? | Rom 5:6 | Reformer Joe | 5797 | ||
Matthew 22:14 comes at the end of a parable in which Jesus compares the scribes and Pharisees and teachers of the law to those who were invited to a wedding nbut refused to attend. He then went out and pulled in outsiders, which refers to those who are not of the "inner circle." There is one who shows up without a wedding garment and is cast out (i.e. Hell). Therefore, there seems to be in the latter case (and therefore likely in the former) an outward call which was heeded by one person who was not worthy to attend. He attempted under his own terms to enter Heaven, but God would have none of it. In any case, we see that not only those who didn't even heed the call (and killed the prophets) are not included in the banmquet, but also those who answered the call under false pretenses. That would lead me to believe that the call here could be an outward one made to all men, but not all who seem to respond to the outward call are of the chosen. The whole passage indicates an outward, general, indiscrimintate call to all kinds of men, which is not inconsistent with Calvinism. False brethren as indicated in your second paragraph are not anti-Calvinistic, either. If you can put a suitable, non-Reformed explanation to Romans 8:28-30 and Romans 9:14-23, then we would have some basis for a non-predestination scenario. Predestination is not "calling," in any case. It is "choosing beforehand." I was chosen before the foundation of the world. I was called at about the age of ten, when I by faith trusted in Christ's death for my sins. Thanks for your input! --Joe! |
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