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1 | Pre-Forum thinking? | Acts 2:38 | charis | 4734 | ||
Dear Ray, I am truly sorry if you are led away from water baptism because of our discussion. I don't know your age or salvation experience, but what was your thinking pre-Forum? If you have read my postings, you should be aware that I am not (at least no longer) hung up on the name, but the faith in the work of God. I think it is obvious that the Bible does not consider baptism to be a 'Jewish thing,' but a Christian act of obedience. Indeed, water baptism does not seem to be prerequisite to salvation, but sustenance is not abundant life. Though there do seem to be 'minimum requirements' to sustain Christian life, is not abundant Christian life better? Please do find a church that baptizes by faith, and submit in faith. I have seen in the Bible evidence that obedience to this and other 'optional' commandments brings forth fruit in keeping with our faith. Go for it, friend! As to the 'Great Commision,' (which is not witten in the Bible, but a human term) I don't believe it refers so much to being baptized and having demons cast out of you as it does to going out and preaching the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Peace upon you in Jesus' name, charis |
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2 | Pre-Forum thinking? | Acts 2:38 | Buf | 4921 | ||
charis. since you are no longer hung up on the name as you say here. why would you end by saying peace upon you in Jesus name? |
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3 | Pre-Forum thinking? | Acts 2:38 | charis | 4954 | ||
Dear Buf, The original question has to do with water baptism, and the discussion that followed was centered on the name into which a believer is baptized. Concerning this issue, I am no longer 'hung up' on the controversy between the two camps, which some call a 'formula.' However, I take very seriously, as a Christian, the words of encouragement from the apostle Paul, "And whatever you do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks through Him to God the Father." Colossians 3:17 NASB. I do not consider this to be a legal 'commandment' to be adhered to by the letter, but an attitude of heart, to be pursued with joy and faith. If you find my usage of the name of Jesus amusing or are implying something, please say so. My stance in this issue is clear, and anyone who has read my previous postings would find the answer to your question obvious. Finally, I was addressing my colleague Ray concerning his distress concerning water baptism. In Christ Jesus, charis |
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4 | Pre-Forum thinking? | Acts 2:38 | Buf | 5097 | ||
charis: i'm just now getting back to your response no, i don't find the name Jesus amusing but i do think that what ever you do in word or deed you do it all in the name of Jesus Christ. isn't baptism a deed? why is it you ask certain people why they dont batize in Jesus name they get all upset with you. they do everything else in Jesus name and whenever you mention baptism they looked liked somebody threw a hair dryer in their bath water. signed buf |
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5 | Pre-Forum thinking? | Acts 2:38 | Ray | 5409 | ||
Hi Buf, I'd like to talk to you about Col 3:17 of which you and charis have been talking concerning the name of the Lord Jesus. Verse sixteen talks about "singing with thankfulness in your hearts to God." Then, "do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks... to God the Father." Notice "giving thanks through Him to God the Father." I would like to compare and contrast a verse in Hebrews 13:14, "Through Him then, let us continually offer up a sacrifice of praise to God, that is, the fruit of lips that give thanks to His name. And do not neglect doing good and sharing; for with such sacrifices God is pleased." I think that we would do well to remember that the one sent is not greater than the one who sent him. I couldn't find the verse. I was led to John 7:15. NASB "The Jews then were astonished, saying, "How has this man become learned, having never been educated? So Jesus answered them and said, "My teaching is not Mine, but His who sent Me. If anyone is willing to do His will, he will know of the teaching, whether it is of God or whether I speak from Myself. He who speaks from himself seeks his own glory; but He who is seeking the glory of the One who sent Him, He is true, and there is no unrighteousness in Him. Did not Moses give you the Law, and yet none of you carries out the Law? Why do you seek to kill Me?" They were seeking to kill this unlearned Man because they didn't know Him. If you, Buf, don't know who gave Him the authority to do the things that He did, and rely simply on the man, Jesus, then you are not judging with righteous judgment but according to appearance. |
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6 | Pre-Forum thinking? | Acts 2:38 | Buf | 5418 | ||
Ray. in matthew 28:18 Jesus says all power in heaven and earth is given unto him. i don't know where you got the revelation that i didn't know where Jesus got his authority. besides i am not trying to be Charis judge as you should not try to take judgement into your own hands matthew 7:1 |
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7 | Pre-Forum thinking? | Acts 2:38 | Ray | 5657 | ||
Hi Buf, I'm sorry if I misjudged you and maybe I can get to know you better. Please notice the "If" of my posting earlier also. The verse you have in mind here in Matthew 28 has Jesus certainly speaking for Himself as God. The people had just worshipped Him and there is only one God to be worshipped, even as you have said perhaps in former postings. At least you've said that there are not three Gods. I am a person who is obsessed with capitalization as some may think (or know). So my "if" of the last posting was a concern that I have that people know Jesus as Lord. That's His name. He wasn't a lord, or just a man. Jesus in my mind was not a man but a Man. He is God and not a god. That was what I wanted to express and make clear for your thinking as well. You have expressed that you do not believe in three Gods (and I do not either), and infer I believe a definite leaning away from the Trinity. I think you have stated that you believe that Jesus and the Father are one. Which One is to be worshipped then? The Lord Jesus or the Lord God who was not known by His name "Lord"? You may be leaning toward thinking of them both as Spirit. I wouldn't find fault with that. I think you have written that the Jesus' flesh was under control of the spirit. I would have chosen a capital S but that's all right. Let me know more of your thoughts so we can study together perhaps. Whatever, Later, Ray |
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