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1 | Does Jesus' name satisfy Matt 28:19? | Acts 2:38 | tmwrlw | 9414 | ||
Amen Chris. I am Oneness Apostolic, and I know for certain that we are to be baptized in Jesus'Name in ordered to be saved -- it is part of God's plan of Salvation as is repentance, and infilling of the Spirit(Acts 2:38). Our Salvation experience is three-fold | ||||||
2 | Does Jesus' name satisfy Matt 28:19? | Acts 2:38 | charis | 12285 | ||
Dear tmwrlw, I beg to disagree that we are saved through baptism in any name. Salvation from hell is a merciful gift from God, apart from any action we take. "For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God;" Ephesians 2:8 NASB. I do believe that water baptism in the name of Jesus is God's will and desire for us, and that it is a powerful act of faith that gives us the ability to manifest our salvation in our lives on earth. I also believe that every Christian should desire to be filled with the Holy Spirit. I do not think this is 'automatic' at the point of profession of faith or upon water baptism, but a relationship that is to be sought after, and God is faithful to pour Himself into us. However, I do not think that the showy 'manifestations, incantations or emotional outbursts' are proof of this holy relationship either. Because some churches require speaking in tongues for church membership and-or salvation, there is great pressure to conform, even if it is false. Sadly, I see much of the 'spiritual' activity these days is man-made, therefore false. This does not edify the church, and thereby does God a great disservice, and only takes away from our walk in Christ. I speak in tongues, but do not flaunt it. Most of my fellow church members also speak in tongues, and I encourage all to desire this gift, but I do not 'blackmail' them by denying salvation to those who have not yet tasted of this gift. If God is true (and he certainly is!), then the promise of Acts 2:38 and 39 will come to pass without my legalistic intervention. I am at peace, and God reigns supreme! Finally, though I do not claim to be a 'Trinitarian,' I absolutely believe in the tri-une nature of God. I do not agree with the 'Jesus-Only' or 'Oneness' ideology. I baptize in the name of Jesus for the forgiveness of sin and the circumcision of heart, relying on the clear patterns laid forth in the Word of God. In Jesus' name, charis |
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3 | Does Jesus' name satisfy Matt 28:19? | Acts 2:38 | Savannah | 30909 | ||
Dear Charis, The very scripture you quote disagrees with what you say. first of all the Ephesians were saved in the book of Acts as were many of the Churches in the Epistles. For by grace you have been saved, meaning that God gave them the opportunity to be saved. Have been saved, reflects that they literally have been saved as I mentioned they were saved in the book of Acts. Through faith, means through their belief which led them to salvation. Not of yourselves, simply means not without God. I don't know why believers think that baptism and repentance etc. are works. If they are considered works so is belief. John 3:3,5,7 Jesus says we must be born again, born of the water and of the spirit to enter into the kingdom of God, marvel not that I say these things to you, you must be born again. Charis, does the Bible contradict itself? There are so many others I could quote, but I won't. Also I agree with you that there isn't an automatic infilling of the Holy Spirit when you are baptised. Just as I don't think scripture supports the belief that all believers have the Holy Spirit. In Rev. it says that we will be lifted by our spirit in the rapture. Any thoughts on this. And I agree with your statement about showy manifestations. I believe its either 1st or 2nd Chor. chpt. 14 that says when new people come into a church and they witness a number of the congragation speaking in tongues, they might think that they are mad. Are job is to witness, but witness with common sence! I'm not saying that tongues in church is wrong. It absolutely is not. However we that are spirit filled are not to speak in tongues just to edify ourselves. I've never heard of a church requiring tongues for membership. Thank you for getting me to think this morning. God Bless you Savannah |
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4 | Does Jesus' name satisfy Matt 28:19? | Acts 2:38 | charis | 31004 | ||
Dear Savannah, Greetings in Jesus' name! And I beg to disagree with your disagreement. (your turn! :-)) If Paul wanted to say that by grace you have been *given the opportunity to be* saved, I think he would have said it. My friend, IMHO, I see there are verses on either side of this debate. I always choose to err on the side of more grace, not less. I call it the LCD, or lowest common denominator of God's grace. When you choose to add something else, problems arise. Some believers think that baptism(s) are works because there are those that manifest them as works. I personally consider baptism to be God's will (desire) for us, but not a requirement for salvation. As to repentance, most Christians I have met believe that repentance is initiated by the quickening of the Holy Spirit (conviction). This is why I believe that the Holy Spirit is the instigator of all 'decisions' for Christ. As to 'automatic' baptism of the Holy Spirit, I do not see evidence of this in many people. Instead I see sanctification starting upon being apprehended by God, and continuing until we meet the Lord. No, belief cannot be works because you don't 'do' it. "Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen." Hebrews 11:1 NASB. About the rapture, I tend to stay away from end-time theory. All I can say is that I am preparing for His coming, but my heart is here and now, serving God and His people, preaching the Good News to the lost and the found. I agree about common sense! It is one of my favorite things. :-) Some churches DO discriminate between those baptized and those not. Maybe not outwardly, but in their hearts. Same with the 'baptism of the Holy Ghost with the evidence of speaking in tongues.' Why? Because they have made them 'works,' it seems. Keep thinking! It is now evening in Japan, and my thought processes are winding down. Blessings and peace in Christ Jesus, charis |
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