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NASB | 1 Corinthians 2:14 ¶ But a natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually appraised. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | 1 Corinthians 2:14 ¶ But the natural [unbelieving] man does not accept the things [the teachings and revelations] of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness [absurd and illogical] to him; and he is incapable of understanding them, because they are spiritually discerned and appreciated, [and he is unqualified to judge spiritual matters]. |
Subject: How can anyone be saved? |
Bible Note: Part one....Dear Makarios, Sorry for my weak retort. I hope you will not ask me to do better a 2nd time. "Anyone who has spent any time at all on this Forum knows that you are a 5 point Calvinist. In fact, you very well know that there are a few self proclaimed "5 point Calvinists" here, including you, but most have come and gone." As you well know some of the dearly departed did not leave of their own volition. "I do not say the above as a 'deriding' or negative comment regarding your beliefs. I only point it out because the stance that you take as a "5 point Calvinist" is one that is shared by very few on this Forum." Most people on this planet do not even belive the Bible! Numbers mean very little to me. And because of that, you naturally find the necessity to protect and substantiate your point of view at every single occurrence, regardless of what others think, or regardless of how redundant you may sound to others." The truth does not depend on the opnion of others and I cannot be resonsible for other peoples reaction to it. I do not say that I am right and you are wrong, but let us both, in humility, pray over our Bibles and ask for enlightenment that we maybe as one. "Such stubborn determination would be very admirable if it were in regards to simply championing the faith of Jesus Christ! But you are 'championing' a little more than just the simple faith itself, and you find it necessary to continue this determination to protect the particular definition of salvation that "works" or "makes the most sense" to you personally. That is also admirable, to an extent." I believe that the Soverignty of God is a foundational doctrine and is an essential part of defending the Faith. The question of whether God saves us or merely makes salvation possible for us is an important distinction. "So much so is your determination that it "rules" and "colors" the content of almost all of your posts, and a person could hardly read a post written by "Reformer John" without knowing just exactly where you stand on the issue of election/eternal security." I am gratified to know that I am in no danger of being mistaken as an arminian. :-) "You obviously feel "challenged" in regards to the particular view of salvation in which you believe. How so? I see my challenge as a battle against my own flesh. I am confident in what I believe and in whom I have believed. " I doubt that there a constant need for you to continually "point out" the fact that you are a 5 point Calvinist." I agree, but I think you may be overstating my "constant need ". My constant need is for grace not approbation from men. "The necessity for you to continue to "evangelize" the fact that you believe that man has absolutely no say-so in the salvation process simply does not exist." If I have led you to believe that man has "no say-so" in the process of salvation, I apologize. What I believe the Bible teaches is that man has no say-so in the election process. That was determined before the foundaton of the world. I can show where in the Bible the proof may be found if you want. |