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1 | How can anyone be saved? | 1 Cor 2:14 | John Reformed | 61199 | ||
Hi Ed, Sorry about the mixup of names. I said: " Natural man is FREE to choose Christ (life) but DOES NOT HAVE THE ABILITY because he hates Christ!" You replied: "That is no choice at all the decision was made for you. That is like a parent saying you have a choice go with us or stay home now go get in the car." Your characterization of my position is unclear to me. It is like a parent (God) saying you (the sinner) have a choice, go with us (believe in Christ) or stay home (die in or sin) now get into the car (believe and be saved)....This is my understanding of your story. Where it breaks down is we don't know what happens next. Do the parents pick the boy up and stick him in the car and force him to go? or do they simply command him to get in the car but leave the final decision to him? If he is forced to go, it would not agree with my understanding of election. If he was left to follow his desire to stay home in spite of his parents wishes and commands, It would agree with my understanding of election. Which one is it? John |
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2 | How can anyone be saved? | 1 Cor 2:14 | Sir Pent | 61202 | ||
A Different Analogy ................................ My friends EdB and John, I believe that I know what EdB is trying to communicate, and why John might be confused, and therefore suggest an alternate analogy to get the idea across. ................................... Imagine a parent who has twin children, Tom and Jerry. The parent, through genetic engineering, caused both of their children to be born without any legs. Then when they were both 10 years old, the parent got a set of artificial legs for Tom so that he could walk, but they did not get any legs for Jerry. Then one day the parent decides to go for a walk to the ice cream store. The parent invites both children to walk with them, but says it is their choice. Tom can’t pass up the opportunity for ice cream, and gladly accepts. Jerry however doesn’t have any legs, and so he doesn’t have the ability to go. The question is, “Does Jerry really have a choice to walk to the store if he has been born without any legs?” For that matter, “If the ice cream is truly irresistable, then does Tom have a real choice either?” ................................... I hope that this helps to clarify the discussion between you, and that something good actually comes out of it. |
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3 | How can anyone be saved? | 1 Cor 2:14 | EdB | 61258 | ||
Sir Pent Most excellent analogy. I think the Holy spirit had his hand in this. I wish everyone would reference this analogy either pro or con election. EdB |
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