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1 | How can anyone be saved? | 1 Cor 2:14 | John Reformed | 60960 | ||
Dear Sir Pent, The systems of theology that arose from the teachings of men may be helpfulor harmful. Afterall, Arminius and Calvin as well as every other writer after John the Apostle were fallible writers and teachers. Therefore, the conscience of the christian is bound only to the teaching of Scripture alone. Unfortunately, we have a strong propensity to read the Word thru imperfect glasses. Our understanding can be corrupted by the traditions of our denominations and the culture of our times as well as sin. How then can one ever arrive at the truth? Our only hope of attaining a full understanding of any of God's truths (doctrines) is by divine enlightenment. Most of us pray for the Holy Spirit to grant us this gift as we prepare to study and search the Word. I believe that it pleases God to enable us to labor diligently and persistantly as a means of actually attaining that enlightenment. Personaly, I have never had an angel from heaven or a vision of the risen Christ appear before my eyes. Nevertheless, I have found myself fully persuaded (contrary to my natural reason and inclination) to embrace certain doctrines that I have come to believe are Biblical. To me it is as much of a miracle as the parting of the waters or Creation itself. I view my salvation in the same way. It was a miracle wrought by God. I was in darkness and God turned the light on for me. Not only did He turn the light on but He also created in me a new heart so that I could and would believe. And so I return to my original question (for which I have yet to recieve a Scriptualy based answer from the "free willists): In the light of 1 Cor 2:14, How then can any man be saved? I say it requires a miraculous work of God in which He raises spiritualy dead people to life by placing within them new hearts. Hearts of flesh that yearn for Christ. Salvation is of the Lord and He never fails. Matt 1:21 "She will bear a Son; and you shall call His name Jesus, for He WILL save HIS people from THEIR sins." (my caps). Can the will of mere man defeat the will of Almighty God? Are you kidding? Of course not! God Bless, John |
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2 | How can anyone be saved? | 1 Cor 2:14 | Sir Pent | 60969 | ||
Answer To Original Question ............................. So how can any man be saved. I think that there is actually very little disagreement on the answer to that question. Those who agree with Calvin or Wesley would both say that salvation is only possible through the sacrifice of Jesus Christ on the cross. They would also both say that the only reason why anyone would accept that forgiveness is that God draws us to himself. ......................................... Therefore, the scriptures that both sides would use, would be much the same. I did a quick search on the web and found the following two websites that cover the Wesleyan perspective on this including several scriptures: http://www.imarc.cc/harted4ap.html and: http://www.revneal.org/Writings/on.htm ......................................... The only difference is that Calvin calls this drawing "predestination", and says, that it is irresistable and limited to a select group of people. Wesley calls it "prevenient grace", and says that it can be resisted, but is poured out on all people. |
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3 | How can anyone be saved? | 1 Cor 2:14 | John Reformed | 60972 | ||
Sir Pent, This is a non-answer. Please answer it in such a way that the answer satisfys the claims of 1 Cor 2:14. In an earlier post I disagreed with your interpretation of the verse in question.I also supplied my own which included an explanation of why I thought you mistaken an offered my own understanding. You did not reply. Therefore I was forced to assume that you either agreed with me or you still disagreed but had not yet been able to offer me correction. John |
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4 | How can anyone be saved? | 1 Cor 2:14 | Sir Pent | 60975 | ||
Personal Note ......................................................... Dear John, I would appreciate a little more grace here :) I apologize if I missed an earlier post of yours that dealt with the exact same interpretation of this verse that I proposed. I admit that I haven’t read every post in this thread (of course, it is pretty long). Please let me know the post number and I will try to respond to it. ......................................................... I actually was not following this thread really closely for a while when it started, because it seemed to be just another thread in a long list of threads endlessly debating the Calvinist / Arminianist perspectives on this forum. For the most part, I have decided to just ignore those at this point. However, in this case, I thought there was a unique opportunity to try to bring some consensus between the two viewpoints. ......................................................... Thus my answer to your question that focused on the similarities rather than the differences. Then the response that I get from you is that my post doesn’t even qualify as an answer. Up to this point, I have found our discussion to be rational and gentle. As this is the first thread that we have had significant interaction with each other, and I have thus far appreciated your method of communicating ideas. I hope that this doesn’t indicate that you wish to start insulting my posts. |
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