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1 | How can anyone be saved? | 1 Cor 2:14 | John Reformed | 60892 | ||
Dear Sir Pent, You wrote: "God could have said that because Christ died for the sins of the world then Tom over here is going to believe in Me and be saved no matter what Tom’s personal choice would have been. Meanwhile I will leave Jerry over there unable to believe in Me, and Jerry will go to hell, regardless of what his personal choice would have been. In my understanding this is the Calvinist perspective." Sir Pent, you misunderstand the calvinist perspective. God's choice in election is not arbitrary but is founded on His good pleasure. In other words His choice as well as everything He does is perfect, wise, holy and just. Believe it, when the world goes before the judgement eat of God, all will have their mouths shut for they will be without excuse. When Adam fell all of his decendants fell with him (Rom 5:15) Including both Tom and Jerry. In their fallen state, our two heroes are considered by God as "children of wrath" (Eph 2:3). Neither one wants anything to do with God (Rom 3:11) They are rebels and enemies whose true allegiance is to their "father", the devil. (John 8:44) Now God would have been perfectly just in throwing Tom, Jerry and all the rest of mankind into hell because of their sins against Him. God is JUST. But He is also mercifull and out of mercy alone He chose to save Tom. And Jerry He left to follow the desires of his wicked heart which was to sin and hate God. If you ask me why He chose to save Tom, but left Jerry to rebel, I would say it was for God's own reasons that He has not given us to know. But Paul says in Rom 9:22,23 " What if God, although willing to demonstrate His wrath and to make His power known, endured with much patience vessels of wrath prepared for destruction? And He did so to make known the riches of His glory upon vessels of mercy, which He prepared beforehand for glory,". So, you see, Jerry (a natural man) would never accept the foolishness of the gospel and is not even able to judge between right and wrong when it comes to spiritual things (1 Cor 2:14). Tom on the other hand was blessed by God, and was visited by the Holy Spirit. His heart of stone was replaced with a heart of flesh. He was drawn by the Father to Jesus Christ thru the ministry of the Word and for the first time in his life he was able to recieve it and believe it. For now he understood spiritual truth! Therefore, the situation of a natural man desiring God but being rejected on the basis of predestination to election, is not possible and unscriptural. "For all who call on the name of the Lord will be saved". Jerry would never make a personal choice in favor of Christ because he would never desire to do so! That is the calvinistic perspective. God Bless, John |
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2 | How can anyone be saved? | 1 Cor 2:14 | EdB | 60902 | ||
John and Joe I have some questions If at all possible answer yes or no. 1. Did Adam and Eve have a choice to sin or not? 2. Since the fall in the garden can an unsaved man live without sinning? 3. Is a non Elect person lost to sin? 4. Can a non elect person obtain salvation? EdB |
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3 | How can anyone be saved? | 1 Cor 2:14 | John Reformed | 60909 | ||
Hello Ed, 1. Did Adam and Eve have a choice to sin or not?... Yes. 2. Since the fall in the garden can an unsaved man live without sinning?... No. 3. Is a non Elect person lost to sin?... Yes 4. Can a non elect person obtain salvation?... No Ed I get the feeling I'm being set up. Oh well, fools rush in..... John |
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4 | How can anyone be saved? | 1 Cor 2:14 | EdB | 60916 | ||
John No I wasn't setting you up as such. However using your thoughts I can not figure out what the Great White Throne of Judgement is for. Man has to sin. Man cannot do anything about that sin unless God so moves, then when God does so move man has to accept Jesus and be forgiven of that sin. What it is the judgement? To you some men were made for destruction and others for salvation what is to judge? If I understand you right it was a done deed before creation. Where is man's responsibility in all of this, or do we have none? If we have none what is to judge? |
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