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1 | How can anyone be saved? | 1 Cor 2:14 | Emmaus | 60781 | ||
John, Yes. Only because of grace does a man become "a partaker of His divine nature" and able to act in any way pleasing to God, which is to say as His adopted child. Whereas on the contrary, "works of the law" are works of man and carnal nature not of grace. The obedience of faith is a filial obedience of a child of God, whereas "works of the law" are the servile obedience of a slave. Emmaus |
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2 | How can anyone be saved? | 1 Cor 2:14 | John Reformed | 60782 | ||
Emmaus, I think that "works of the law" can be carnal on one hand but spiritual on the other. For instance Jesus said in Mark 7:6 And He said to them, "Rightly did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written: 'THIS PEOPLE HONORS ME WITH THEIR LIPS, (Honoring God is spiritual) BUT THEIR HEART IS FAR AWAY FROM ME (without love it is carnal) I believe that this is the reason why, Luther especialy, was so adamant about our being saved on the sole basis of a faith that is given (to those that God chose) as a gift. His passion was to give God all the glory. From predestination, to calling, to regeneration, conversion, justification, adoption, sanctification and glorification. All accomplished by God alone. We did nothing to earn salvation and we can add nothing to Christ's "cross work". As it is writtten, "Salvation is of the Lord." May I suggest we narrow the focus of our discussion to a single issue have more of a give and take as in a discussion? Your thoughts? John |
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3 | How can anyone be saved? | 1 Cor 2:14 | Emmaus | 60821 | ||
John , I would agree that we can do nothing to earn our initial justification and can add nothing to His "cross work." But with his grace we can enter into his work with Him. Jesus did call us to take up our crosses and follow Him: "he who does not take up his cross and follow me is not worthy of me," (Matt 10:38) and "If any man would come after me, let him take up his cross and follow me.." (Matt 16:24). We can work with Him as His co-workers: "In every thing God (sunergei eis agathon))WORKS FOR GOOD WITH those who love Him and are called according to his purpose. (Rom 8:28) and "WORKING TOGETHER WITH (sunergountes)Him, then, we entreat you not to accept the grace of God in vain" (2 Cor 6:1)And this is the kind of work, the work of God, which we can participate in after our unmerited justification, that Paul had no trouble "boasting" about, (Rom 5:3;5:11;5:11). What single issue did you have in mind? Emmaus |
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4 | How can anyone be saved? | 1 Cor 2:14 | John Reformed | 61298 | ||
Dear Emmaus, I totally lost track of your post. Forgive me. What I was driving at is that perhaps we should stik to human ability as it relates to spiritual things and the "natural" man. Focusing out attention on 1 cor 2:14. I am all for going to any other verse in the Bible as long as it sheds light on our question. Fair enough? Thank you Emmaus, John |
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5 | How can anyone be saved? | 1 Cor 2:14 | Emmaus | 61328 | ||
John, I think this subject has been worked over enough. I am going to let it and you rest. I just think that the position you hold in many ways attempts to put back up the veil of the temple that was torn open at Jesus' death. God's sovereignty is not in doubt just because He has drawn near and made us partakers of His divine nature. On the free will issue, I believe that even if man is "dead in his trespasses," God's prevenient grace can eleveate man's crippled will to the place where he is able to make a free choice and either "resist the Holy Spirit" as Stephen accused the Sanhedrin in Acts, or surrender to the Holy Spirit and His grace. It still comes under God's grace if that is the way God wants to exrcise His perogatives. I think that is a reasonable way to reconcile the "free will" verses cited by so many with the other verses you choose to emphasize. I know where you are coimg from, I just think you you are trying to put God into too small a box, although I am sure you do not see it that way. Peace, Emmaus |
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