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1 | "ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED"!!! | Matt 22:37 | Rom831 | 30315 | ||
But the son previously had life, the was dead, and was alive again. So it wasn't just someone lost then found. And it doens't make sense that it was Jews/Gentiles because He doesn't use any of His comon analogies for them. Also, neither case fits the gentiles. They weren't always saved, neither were they saved, lost, and saved. And why would it be the Jews? What point would He have been trying to make? They were God's chosen, lost, then came back? No need for a parable there, that's not a lesson, just history. I agree there are other places to prove this as well. I just cant see any other reasonable or useful intrepretation of this passage. Bless...artS |
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2 | "ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED"!!! | Matt 22:37 | Morant61 | 30320 | ||
Greetings Art! I think the problem is that you are making too much of the phrase "alive again". Even in the story, the son didn't literally die! The father was simply saying that the son, who was dead to him because he was gone, was now found. Concerning Jews/Gentiles or Religious/Sinners, it does make sense in the context. Like the eldest son, the Jews were upset that the Kingdom was being extended to sinners/Gentiles. In fact, this parable sounds a lot like Rom. 11, where Paul makes the point that Israel is the natural branches of the Olive Tree. They are broken off because of unbelief, while the Gentiles are grafted in because of faith. Paul then says that the Jews will be grafted in again as well. The main thing is that a parable usually only has one point. It is not an allegory. So, every detail of the story is not necessarily significant. In this case, the story is simply an explanation of Luke 15:1-2. God rejoices when the lost are found, so of course Jesus would hang around with sinners. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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3 | "ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED"!!! | Matt 22:37 | Rom831 | 30620 | ||
Sorry, those are Jesus' words. All He would hav had to do is not say them to change the meaning. Yet He did. He is perfect, you and I are not. Had He not wanted it to mean that, He would not has misspoke. You say exactly what I mean. No, the son didn't litterally die. But he died to the Father, he died to God. What does it mean to be dead to God? To not be saved. You are also right, this parable IS about the lost being found. This just happens to be someone who WAS found, then lost, then found "again". Bless...ArtS |
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4 | "ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED"!!! | Matt 22:37 | charis | 30626 | ||
Dear ArtS, Greetings in the name of Jesus! Friend, we should not assume that God will take away our salvation when we sin. In the parable of the Prodigal Son, I don't think that we can say that he 'lost' his salvation. Certainly, he 'lost' his way (like a kid in a departmant store or my wife in a parking lot) and even 'lost' his portion of the inheritance, but he did not stop being a son. His father was still his father, and he was still the father's son. If we were to 'lose' our relationship with the Father when we sin (we ALL sin!), and since we cannot know the hour of our death, then our salvation would become a matter of luck or fate! Will you be 'in' or 'out' when YOU die? This is a scary doctrine! I do see that the Bible speaks of an 'unforgiveable sin.' I have no doubt that this sin is not a casual sin, a stumble or a weakness. This is purposeful, outright rebellion against the sovereignty of the Holy Spirit. Few are capable of this kind of sin after knowing the Lord Jesus. So, for most practical purposes, once you are saved, you will continue to be saved. Starting in God's grace, and finishing by God's grace. Peace and love in Christ Jesus, charis |
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5 | "ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED"!!! | Matt 22:37 | Rom831 | 30642 | ||
I did not say this was due to a sin. The other son sinned too when he complained, but he didn't loose it. In fact, the prodigal didn't "loose" it either, he gave it up. You are right, he lost his inheritnce. But what is our inheritance? It IS the kingdom of God. Matthew 25:34 "Then the King will say to those on his right, Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world." Not only does it say he became lost to the father (God), but "dead". Those who are dead to the father (God) are those who are not saved, who are not in Him. We cannot loose our salvation by sinning. But we can reject it. Bless...ArtS |
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6 | "ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED"!!! | Matt 22:37 | bygraceyearesaved | 30667 | ||
God Bless Everyone, this is coming from bygraceyearesaved, I'm addressing the prodigal son issue: This is not a parable about forgivenes; it is about acceptance,and the wayward son's attitude about a relationship to his father. When he ran out of resources and determined to return his father,he rehearsed the speech he intended to use to gain acceptance when he returned home(Luke15:18-19). Here is a young rebel who thought he was unworthy of his father's acceptance because of his sinful behavior. He determined to go home and ask his father's forgiveness. His sense of unworthines caused him to believe that he could only hope to be a servant.Yet the story clearly demonstrates that the father had already forgiven him and was ready to fully accept him when he returned home.In fact, when his father saw him from a distance, he ran toward him and fell on his neck,kissing him.The son then tried to give his prepared speech(verses22-23). We hear much about the importance of asking for God's forgiveness when we sin. Yet the Bible clearly teaches that total forgiveness was given to us when we received Christ.God has forgiven us of our SIN NATURE.That means that every indidual sin we would commit was forgiven. So explain to me How the son lost his inheritance?Because you throw in a contradiction when you said"the prodigal son didn't "lose" his inheritance he "gave it up". So technically if you give something up you have lost it. | ||||||
7 | "ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED"!!! | Matt 22:37 | Rom831 | 30673 | ||
I disagree, there are three parables in a row - lost sheep, lost coin, lost son. Why would the first two talk about one thing and then the third completely switch when it 100 percent fits and expands on the first two? As far as giving up the inheritance, loosing it would imply that he did something wrong and it was taken from him. This did not happen. Instead, he gave it up. Is there precident for this? Genesis 25:31-34. Esau gave his inheritance away to get food, just as the prodigal gave his away for earthly wealth. And what happened to Jacob and Esau? God loved Jacob and hated Esau (Mal 1:2-3). In the same sense, when the prodigal forfited his inheritance, he became dead to God until he came back to Him. Bless...ArtS |
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8 | "ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED"!!! | Matt 22:37 | bygraceyearesaved | 30685 | ||
Was the prodigal son's father angry with him at any time? There is absolutely no indication of that in scripture.He just wanted his son to see the foolishness of his behavior and come on home. The father never stopped accepting the son, although the prodigal felt that way. Because the prodigal didn"t understand his own identity, he believed he was unworthy of an intimate relationship with his father. He thought that he had forfeited the right to relate to his father as a son and that his father would reject him.He saw himself as a bad person who could only hope to be a servant in his father's house.Did the father show any reluctance to receive him? This boy was his son!!!!Nothing would ever change that. He was his son BEFORE he went to the far country, while he was IN the far country, and when he came BACK from the far country. Nothing changes sonship!!!! The prodigal had forgotten who he was,but the father had never forgotten for a moment.The father did give him the inheritance .Do you think the father suspected how the son would waste it? He had lived with the boy every day of the child's life and the father knew his son's weakness.It didn't shock the father when the son left home for the far country. The father allowed him to leave,knowing that he would waste the money on a wild fling.Do you think our sins surprise God? He knows you;Nothing we do surprises an omniscient God.I'm not saying that God doesn"t care when we sin. It grieves the heart of our Father when he sees us make foolish choices,but it doesn't surprise HIM. For example as biological parents it hurts us to see our children make foolish choices but that doesn"t mean we stop loving and forgiving them (and it definitely doesn't surprise us!!)SO tell me "How did the prodigal son become dead to God until he came back to HIM? | ||||||
9 | "ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED"!!! | Matt 22:37 | Rom831 | 30691 | ||
That's very pretty. But You are writing between the lines. Look at what it DOES say, not what you'd like it to say. Does the son or the father say the son was lost? The father. Does the son or the father say the son was dead? The father. How did he become dead to the father? Just as the verse says: Luke 15:24 for this son of mine was dead and has come to life again; he was lost and has been found.' And they began to celebrate. Its right there. It may not be as fun and goody goody as your version, but its what God says. Bless...ArtS |
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10 | "ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED"!!! | Matt 22:37 | bygraceyearesaved | 30809 | ||
God Bless You ArtS, The father thought the son was physically and spritually dead and when the son tryed to give his CONFESSION speech on how he had made a foolish decision by sinning AGAINST HEAVEN the father accepted the son for who was and didn't charge the son for what he did because the father knew and understood that he made a bad decision and the reason the father thought the son was dead because the son went out and forgot who he was(verse17) and he wasn't able to survive on his own ,like i wrote before the father knew his sons' weakness. |
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11 | "ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED"!!! | Matt 22:37 | Rom831 | 30810 | ||
Sorry... You added that. The father never says he "thought" his son was dead. He said his son WAS dead. Bless...ArtS |
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12 | "ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED"!!! | Matt 22:37 | bygraceyearesaved | 30815 | ||
ArtS, I apologize for adding that one word(thought). So help me to understand are you suggesting that "the prodigal son was raised from the dead"? |
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13 | "ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED"!!! | Matt 22:37 | Rom831 | 30824 | ||
I'm not having any problems understanding the prodigal. Makes perfect sense to me. Bless...ArtS |
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14 | "ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED"!!! | Matt 22:37 | bygraceyearesaved | 30837 | ||
ArtS, I'm not having problems understanding the prodigal son parable neither. I'm trying to get you to answer my question or maybe you did not understand So we will try this again: "Are you suggesting that the prodigal son was raised from the dead? continue being blessed,bygraceyearesaved |
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15 | "ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED"!!! | Matt 22:37 | Rom831 | 30890 | ||
He was not physically dead. He was dead to God. Just like all non believers are (Let the dead bury the dead). When he returned to God, he was made alive "again" in God. Bless...ArtS |
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16 | "ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED"!!! | Matt 22:37 | bygraceyearesaved | 30913 | ||
ArtS, I thank God that we agree that the prodigal son was SPIRITUAL dead. I hope to hear from you soon. continue being blessed in your studies!!! Thanks again,bygraceyearesaved |
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17 | How was the prodigal resurrected? | Matt 22:37 | charis | 30999 | ||
Dear bygraceyearesaved, Greetings in Jesus' name! If the prodigal son was spiritually dead, then again made spiritually alive, what (or Who) made him alive again? Was it his decision to return? His father's reception? Was it the remorse he felt? Was it the bad food? Or maybe it was the grace of God 're-applied?' My favorite is that the grace of God never departed from him, and continued to work to convict him to return home. Blessings in Christ Jesus, charis |
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18 | How was the prodigal resurrected? | Matt 22:37 | bygraceyearesaved | 31026 | ||
Charis, I agree with you once again!!!! God's grace never departed him. | ||||||