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NASB | Matthew 22:37 And He said to him, "'YOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND.' |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Matthew 22:37 And Jesus replied to him, " 'YOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND.' [Deut 6:5] |
Subject: "ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED"!!! |
Bible Note: Well, if you don't like healthy debate, you have found the wrong forum, I am afraid. :) So maybe you can clear up your beliefs a little so I don't have to spend a lot of time trying to figure them out. 1. Are you saying that one must be immersed in water in order to go to heaven? 2. Do only the sinless go to heaven (Your interpretation of Matthew 13:3 and Revelation 21:27 lead me to think that you do)? As far as the Matthew verse is concerned, is it saying that the childlike quality we are to have is sinlessness? Well, let us let Scripture speak for itself, as you say: "Whoever then HUMBLES HIMSELF as this child, he is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven." --Matthew 18:4 Hmmm... In any case, I find it interesting that you scoff at dogmas, creeds, and philosphies. What does the word "dogma" mean? What is a "creed"? Everything you have put forward in your posts could be considered your creed and your dogma. And I assume that you are a man who is putting forth your dogma and creed. Furthermore, I would assume that you did not learn about the Bible in a vacuum, but that you have sat under someone else's teaching. So all that stuff you are putting forward is just a red herring. The question is not whether we listen to the teaching of men (we all have and do), or whether we have a creed or not (and all of us do, whether it is formally written or not); but, rather, which teachings of which men and what creeds correspond most closely to the Bible? --Joe! |