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NASB | Matthew 22:37 And He said to him, "'YOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND.' |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Matthew 22:37 And Jesus replied to him, " 'YOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND.' [Deut 6:5] |
Subject: "ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED"!!! |
Bible Note: Joe: Thank you for your well-stated points. I agree with you. I'm not challenging you here, for it seems that we are already in agreement with one another on this subject. I merely take this opportunity to present a few thoughts for the consideration of forum members in general. * Who says the point of the parable of the prodigal son is losing and then regaining one's salvation? Who says it has anything to do at all with salvation? It could be argued that the point of the parable is the self-righteous unforgiving son (perhaps a symbol of unbelieving Israel) compared to the sinner who confesses his sin and receives grace (believing Gentiles) * To say that this parable represents having salvation, then losing it, and then getting it back again presents a major problem. It contradicts the clear teaching of Hebrews 6:4 and following. In that passage it is clear that "It is impossible . . . if they fall away, to be brought back to repentance." What part of this do people not understand? If, as some interpret it, it is possible to lose one's salvation, then, according to the Hebrews 6 passage, it is also impossible to get it back again. Yet the fall-from-grace-and-lose-your-salvation crowd tell us that if you do lose your salvation, you can get it back again. Not according to the Hebrews passage. Afraid not. * It seems that people who believe it possible to fall from grace and lose your salvation often turn to parables for proof texts to support their belief. I would avoid building a doctrine on a parable, since parables often have more than one legitimate interpretation. It seems that a parable, filled with figurative, symbolic language, would be a weak foundation upon which to build a doctrine. *Finally, in the parable of the prodigal son, at what point did he cease to be the son of his father, if indeed he is a symbol of one who loses his salvation? Was he later born again *again*? kalos |