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NASB | Luke 23:46 And Jesus, crying out with a loud voice, said, "Father, INTO YOUR HANDS I COMMIT MY SPIRIT." Having said this, He breathed His last. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Luke 23:46 And Jesus, crying out with a loud voice, said, "Father, INTO YOUR HANDS I COMMIT MY SPIRIT!" Having said this, He breathed His last. [Ps 31:5] |
Subject: Did Jesus suffer in hell when he died? |
Bible Note: Greetings Graceful! Most of what you said in your last post, I agree with 100 percent. However, I can't let you off of the hook quite that easily! :-) You said earlier about the phrase 'if it be Thy will': " The Lords prayer was, Our Father, who art in heaven hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come, thy will be done... Where is the statement "If it be thy will?" In the garden did our Lord asking what the will of God was? Was there ever a time that He did not know God's will? Or was he asking "Is there another way?" I do not see here where there is uncertainty about what God's will in either of these scriptures. " If it is unnecessary for mortal man to pray thy will be done... This should now be clear, Our right ot choose God's will and plan for our lives. God made provision, but we have to choose to accept (agree with His Word) to receive it. This IS why we would pray Thy will be done...Not "If it be thy will"." Yet, as I demonstrated in Luke 22:42, Jesus Himself prayed this exact prayer. So, are you correct when you say: "...it is unnecessary for mortal man to pray thy will be done..."? Or, is it in fact Biblical that Jesus Himself prayed, "If it be Thy will..."? One of the biggest problems with the Word of Faith teachings is simply this: They often create specific promises where no specific promise is made to Christians. For instance, I shared in an earlier post about our experience with the death of our son and how many in the Word of Faith movement tried to tell us that we simply didn't have enough faith. After all, isn't healing a promise to be claimed? Yet, Scripture never promises Christians that we will always be healthy. It never promises Christians that we will always be wealthy. Faith is not simply claiming promises, it is trusting God no matter what the circumstances. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |