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1 | Did Jesus suffer in hell when he died? | Luke 23:46 | gracefull | 65625 | ||
Hi Tim, I know there is another thread on this now but for the sake of not losing this communication and not addressing your statements, I want to post here.. In Gethsemane Jesus knew the will of the Father. He knew exactly where He was headed, and every bit of His humanity screamed noooooo. His prayer was to be released from this call if at all possible, not I do not know your will. Yes He was asking if there was another way, but He KNEW the way. I believe this is very different from sending a shotgun prayer with nothing specific to aim at. Please understand I know there are many times we really are not sure what God wants especially in our baby walk and we have very little Word indwelling in us and our prayer life is weak we pray this kind of prayer a lot. I also know for myself when I was a baby and praying this way my faith was in His mercy to watch out for me in my ignorance, and there was no faith in His specific provision. Now that I have grown up some, my prayer life has changed. When I pray and am uncertain I ask Him to show me His will in His Word so I can focus faith on His promise. There really is a huge difference. Many believers never grow up in the Word past thes scatter prayers because of the effort of developing this deeper relationship with the Lord. They are taught we can't know the 'mysteries' of God.. But the Word says the Holy spirit came to lead us into ALL truth. Word of Faith people believing for things not specifically promised. There are promises regarding our financial provision, our health, our spiritual growth... I think financial believing seems to be the rub with most WOF opposers. How can I believe for a new car when there is no scripture for it? As I mature in my relationship and God's will for my life are developing in me, the Holy Spirit reveals how God wants me to pray, and what to pray for. Others around me will not understand the faith that speaks and calls things that be not as though they are, and I believe if you couple this with the fact that they do not accept this truth of the revealed will of God, they are often jealous of the faith and resent it.'My Father never gave me a fatted calf!' I hope this helps you see what I see... May God bless you Tim with the wisdon and understanding of His will... |
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2 | Did Jesus suffer in hell when he died? | Luke 23:46 | EdB | 65658 | ||
Graceful Let me just inject something here. When we compare how Jesus prayed to how we should pray, presupposes we like Jesus know God's will. Simple illustration: The car we use to go to work breaks down. Most everyone would pray for a new car, that is our solution to the problem. However the problem really is we need a way to work. God’s will might be for us to ride with a non believer to testify to them on the way to work each day. God’s will might also be that we move close enough to work so we don’t need a car and we can give the saved money to missions. God’s will might be we walk to work since God knows we have a blood clot that will only dissolved through exercise. God’s will might be that we get a car to take us to work. Four possible solutions to our problem yet most of us who claim we know God'’ will would pray for a car. When in fact that solution was only one of four I could think of. When we pray we need to pay the problem not our solution and we need to pray God’s will be done not ours. We might be missing real blessings by praying our will and not God’s. EdB |
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