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1 | Did Jesus suffer in hell when he died? | Luke 23:46 | EdB | 65536 | ||
Graceful Please tell me where Hank Hanegraaff said Kenyon majored in Metaphysics in college. I have searched all references to Kenyon in Hank's books. In Christianity in Crisis and I did find this statement, "Kenyon, the real father of the modern-day Faith Movememnt, "majored" in metaphysics." (Emphasis not mine) Christianity in Crisis published by Harvest House Publishing 1993 pg 67. This is not saying he majored in metaphysics in college, but rather Kenyon's philosophy majored in Metaphysics. As to his education Hank Hanegraaff states, “There is little doubt that New Thought metaphysics had an enormous impact on Kenyon. The evidence from his works, from eyewitnesses, and from external sources provide ample testimony to his cultic connections. Since a number of individuals have already established the cultic origins of the Faith movement via Kenyon, I will not belabor the point here.2 However, I think it is worth mentioning that Kenyon attended Emerson College of Oratory, which was a virtual hotbed of New Thought metaphysics.3 Christianity in Crisis published by Harvest House Publishing 1993 pg 331 Notice please the numbers 2 and 3 they are footnotes and I included the references. I think you will have to agree this is pretty impressive list of people that stated Kenyon was wrapped up in the Metaphysics besides Hanegraaff. 2. Notable works include Charles Farah, “A Critical Analysis: The ‘Roots’ and ‘Fruits of Faith Formula Theology” (paper presented at the Society for Pentecostal Studies, November 1980)James M. Kinnebrew, The Charismatic Doctrine of Positive Confession: A Historical, Exegetical and Theological Critique (doctoral dissertation, Mid-America Baptist Theological Seminary1988); D.R. McConnell, The Kenyon Connection: A Theological and Historical Analysis of the Cultic Orgins of the Faith Movement. (master’s thesis, Oral Roberts University, 1982) and A Different Gospel (Peabody, MA: Hendrickson Publishers, Inc., 1988); H. Terris Neuman, An Analysis of the Sources of the Charismatic Teaching of Positive Confession (unpublished paper, Wheaton Graduate School, 1980); “Cultic Origins of Word-Faith Theology Within the Charis-matic Movement” (Pneuma: The Journal of the Society for Pentecostal Studies, 12, 1, Spring 1990:3-55); and Dale H. Simmons, A Theological and Historical Analysis of Kenneth E. Hagin’s Claim to Be a Prophet (master’s thesis, Oral Roberts University, 1985). 3. See McConnell, A Different Gospel, 35-43. Christianity in Crisis published by Harvest House Publishing 1993 pg 407-408 All we have is the testimony of witnesses and the evidence of his fruit since Kenyon died in 1948. The testimony of the witnesses verify his philosophy was metaphysical. The evidence of his fruit shows he had metaphysical thoughts. Everyone can't be wrong. I think the proof is strong enough to conclude Kenyon was very much influenced by metaphysical philosophy EdB |
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2 | Did Jesus suffer in hell when he died? | Luke 23:46 | gracefull | 65576 | ||
Please forgive this long letter, but I truly want to see if we can establish a foundation for communication on a scriptural level. Last but not least, yes the metaphysics believe they can create their positve circumstances by their own positive thoughts, and speakin them into existence. But this godless philosophy does not make the WOF teachings untrue. I simply means Satan can counterfeit God's word. (Ipresented this possibility before and was not responded to) Satan uses the scripture that Jesus died for the sins of the world to create his religion of Unitarian Universalism. Do you believe Satan counterfeits everthing God does? He counterfeits the gifts, he counterfeits salvation...Why would he not counterfeit the teaching that 'Faith filled words spoken from the revealed truth of God's word produces results in the natural rhelm'? Would this not be the ideal counterfeit for the scripture Matthew 17:20 but exclude faith in God but insert faith in self, you then have metaphysics. But the distortion of the truth does not make the truth not truth. Without a scriptural teaching/sharing along with enlightenment (the Word without the enlightenment of the Holy Spirit cannot be understood. It is like the Supreme Courts 'interpretaion' of the Constitution apart from the authors). Maybe now you and Hank will understand why we are not communicating. I hope so. In Jesus P.S. I do not have time to proof read this so please forgive mispelled words and any other gramatical error. |
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3 | Did Jesus suffer in hell when he died? | Luke 23:46 | EdB | 65580 | ||
Graceful Have you read "New Creation Realities"? Can you honestly say you don't see any problems in that writing? Since you refuse to completely read Christianity in Crisis, at least read a Different Gospel by McConell. Even better read or reread "New Creation Realities" only this time read each scripture reference in context and see it they even remotely suggest what Kenyon says they do. I studied New Creation Realities for 3 months because of a course and as my profiles reveals I was involved in the Word of Faith for about 10 years. I know the teaching, I know the proof text, I know the WOF teachers, I was a part of it, I know the truth, I also know the results of Word of Faith teaching. My heart goes out to you, I pray that your eyes and spirit will be opened to the truth. My prayer is that when the scales do fall from your eyes it will not be because the WOF lies have left you down. I have had to work through that with too many others and I know from experience it is hard breaking. God’s mercy and grace be upon you EdB |
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4 | Did Jesus suffer in hell when he died? | Luke 23:46 | gracefull | 65626 | ||
Thank you for this compassionate concern for me. I do appreciate it and this is how we should respond to one another when in disagreement. this allows the 'defenses' to come down to a degree where we can keep open communications. We will talk more, I am sure. God bless..No I have not read New Creation Realities but will consider reading it. If it teaches the Word I should not have a problem reading it. God bless |
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5 | Did Jesus suffer in hell when he died? | Luke 23:46 | EdB | 65656 | ||
Graceful I'm so sorry I thought you had read Kenyon's New Creation Realities and I just could not understand how you were defending him. I understand now. EdB |
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