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1 | Did Jesus suffer in hell when he died? | Luke 23:46 | gracefull | 65625 | ||
Hi Tim, I know there is another thread on this now but for the sake of not losing this communication and not addressing your statements, I want to post here.. In Gethsemane Jesus knew the will of the Father. He knew exactly where He was headed, and every bit of His humanity screamed noooooo. His prayer was to be released from this call if at all possible, not I do not know your will. Yes He was asking if there was another way, but He KNEW the way. I believe this is very different from sending a shotgun prayer with nothing specific to aim at. Please understand I know there are many times we really are not sure what God wants especially in our baby walk and we have very little Word indwelling in us and our prayer life is weak we pray this kind of prayer a lot. I also know for myself when I was a baby and praying this way my faith was in His mercy to watch out for me in my ignorance, and there was no faith in His specific provision. Now that I have grown up some, my prayer life has changed. When I pray and am uncertain I ask Him to show me His will in His Word so I can focus faith on His promise. There really is a huge difference. Many believers never grow up in the Word past thes scatter prayers because of the effort of developing this deeper relationship with the Lord. They are taught we can't know the 'mysteries' of God.. But the Word says the Holy spirit came to lead us into ALL truth. Word of Faith people believing for things not specifically promised. There are promises regarding our financial provision, our health, our spiritual growth... I think financial believing seems to be the rub with most WOF opposers. How can I believe for a new car when there is no scripture for it? As I mature in my relationship and God's will for my life are developing in me, the Holy Spirit reveals how God wants me to pray, and what to pray for. Others around me will not understand the faith that speaks and calls things that be not as though they are, and I believe if you couple this with the fact that they do not accept this truth of the revealed will of God, they are often jealous of the faith and resent it.'My Father never gave me a fatted calf!' I hope this helps you see what I see... May God bless you Tim with the wisdon and understanding of His will... |
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2 | Did Jesus suffer in hell when he died? | Luke 23:46 | Ken John | 65641 | ||
Thank you for your comments on prayer. As one grows in Christ our prayer life becomes so much more important and we need to take time to pray. Some days I find I am "dry" and struggle to pray. However on other days I have so much and can pray for much longer. Do you have this experience ? I am interested in the pray life of other believers ? Yours in Crist, Ken |
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3 | Did Jesus suffer in hell when he died? | Luke 23:46 | gracefull | 66055 | ||
Hi Ken, Sorry for taking so long to respond. Yes..there have been 'dry'. These to me are times when the emotions do not register the Holy Spirit's presence, but as I have grown in faith in my relationship those times are rare now. I am aware of the Holy Spirit's presence constantly now. My prayer life has changed a lot also in that I go to the Father less and less asking for provision (family, finance, health etc.) but spend a lot more time praising Him for the provision Jesus provided already. God bless. |
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4 | Did Jesus suffer in hell when he died? | Luke 23:46 | Ken John | 66067 | ||
Thanks for your response. I agree that one's prayer life matures as one grows in Christ. When praying in private I feel closer to God than when praying during our Church Prayer Meetings. Is it the presence of others that I am conscious of or is it that one is feeling forced to pray ? Or maybe there is another reason. Jesus did tell us that when two or more are together in prayer there He is also. Do you feel His Presence then ? | ||||||
5 | Did Jesus suffer in hell when he died? | Luke 23:46 | gracefull | 66177 | ||
Good morning! Let's look at it this way...Are you married? Consider that we are married to the Holy Spirit and those intimate times we can let our hairdown, we can share those thoughts and feelings we can't share with others. We can cry, we can become vulnerable..here we are open and uninhibited by the restrictions of 'corporate'prayer. When I was a new born believer, corporate prayer seemed hard to me. I did not feel like I was part of it but merely an observer. I would try to join but my faith was not developed enough to pray boldly and confidently with others. I personally was shy and self concious that I would 'pray wrong'. And yes there were times when I knew I was not in the right spirit and chose not to pray. But you must search inward with those questions, and repent if it is rebellion. Yes, I recognize (inward witness, not feeling) His presence all the time now and pray with boldness and confidence that he hears me. I feel His presence often. We are a vessel for Him to work and speak through and the less there is of me, the more there is of Him. I heard a sermon by Mark Chirona that really impressed my thinking and may help you understand. In the Song of Solomon the Shulamite begins by expressing My beloved is mine and I am His. She progresses to I am my beloved and he is mine. She ends with the love Christ has for us.. I AM BY BELOVED'S. When we get there our pride and fears vanish in light of the love of God. I hope this helps! |
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