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1 | Did Jesus suffer in hell when he died? | Luke 23:46 | Pastor Glenn | 65221 | ||
Yes EdB, That is indeed Word of Faith taken to an extreme where it is unbiblical. But how do we arrive at the right balance so that we are not always walking in the other extreme of always being in doubt like Thomas? Jesus Christ spoke against fear and doubt many times. Where did He ever speak against too much faith? It is truly not right to say "my tire is perfect" and expect God to honor your faith concerning the whether or not the tire is flat. But what if we say, instead, "Lord help", while trusting God to bring us through whatever dangers that that flat tire may pose to our safety? I am not defending "Word of Faith" in the way it teaches falsely that words are containers that give us power to change reality. However, I do believe that "words of faith in God" will bring us through, in whatever way He chooses, is biblical. It may be good to start a new thread at Mat 14:29. Pastor Glenn |
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2 | Did Jesus suffer in hell when he died? | Luke 23:46 | gracefull | 65278 | ||
Pastor Glenn The Bible does teach us that the Holy Spirit is our teacher and the revealer of the Word of God. You know what I think is really in question here? I wonder who on this thread believes the Holy Spirit speaks to us? Also I think christians have difficulty understanding the term covenant. A covenant is a bond between two, me and God. In this covenant (His word) He has made certain committments or promises. And with every promise is a requirement, believe and receive by faith. That is the nutshell of the faith teachers teaching that I have studied. Do you see a problem with that? My problem on this thread is getting anyone to actually discuss the teachings in light of scripture without the accusations. Kenneth Copeland has never in all my 100 teaching tapes said we are to think what we want and our mind will make it happen. He teaches believe the word of God and act by faith and God has obligated Himself through Jesus to do it. He did not obligate Himself because He had to, He obligated Himself so we would believe, Him and trust Him. This goes blatantly against the grain of the teaching that believes God does whatever He wants regardless of the Word. God made a committment to mankind but He only does His part when we do ours. Is that not true of salvation? Healing? Did you check out some of the apologetics on the website I recomended. The creater of this site tries to take a look at the faith teachings objectively without the fear and accusations, and mainly without taking the teachers statements out of context. We are all human and will not always agree, but as long as we remain teachable we can grow. As I stated before, I rely on the promise that the Holy Spirit will reveal truth and error to me as long as my heart stays focused on knowing God. When pride or fear, or a critical spirit are allowed, our objectivity becomes blinded, and we cease to grow. I want all there is for me from God because I want to be what He wants me to be....God bless |
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3 | Did Jesus suffer in hell when he died? | Luke 23:46 | BradK | 65285 | ||
Dear Graceful, Allow me to interject some comments regarding the Word-Faith teaching.I offer these more as observations than direct criticism. First off, I do most certainly believe the Holy Spirit speaks to us. One of the more overlooked, yet profound truths of the NT is in Gal.5:16, where the imperative is "to walk in the Spirit and you will not carry out the lust of the flesh". Further, who would deny the proclamation in John 14:26, where the Spirit is not only our Helper/Comforter, but also "teaches us all things". From my general study of the Word-Faith teaching(and I have read Hanegraffs' book, Christianity in Crises) I see two major problems: 1.I've concluded that there is an overall lack of emphasis on the Person of Christ! Christ is not given preeminence as in Col. 2:9-10. "For in Him all fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form,and in Him you have been made complete, and He is head over all rule and authority..."; 2. There is a lack of solid expositional teaching of the Word of God. Topical teaching is the rule, not the exception. Now, I have no problem with topical teaching, however, it CAN be misused to support non-biblical or extra-biblical views. Expositional or verse-by-verse teaching forces one to stay in context and to deal with an entire passage, chapter, etc. I hope this helps, Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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