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1 | Did Jesus suffer in hell when he died? | Luke 23:46 | gracefull | 65269 | ||
Hi John.. I like talking with you because although you do not believe the same (who does exactly) because you rely on scripture. Jesus had also just said " My God, My God why have you forsaken me". The sins of the world were taken upon him and God the Father turned away because He cannot look upon sin. It is finished was said before he died not after which is where you believe the atonement took place. I believe it is finished was the completion fo the process of sin upon him. Then he died. You did not anser my question (What is the penalty of the sinner..physical death or eternal punishment?) Actually, I find that Ed, Hank and justme all expect me to decide they are correct based on Hank H's book which so far has given no scripture to refute the teaching of faith. But I will read on.... Did you read the Apologetic I suggested? If not, why? Your sister in Christ |
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2 | Did Jesus suffer in hell when he died? | Luke 23:46 | srbaegon | 65277 | ||
Hello Gracefull I will answer your question: "What is the penalty of the sinner..physical death or eternal punishment?" It is eternal punishment. But since the Lord Jesus was not a sinner, this doesn't apply to Him. You asked John: "Did you read the Apologetic I suggested?" I read the beginning of the one entitled The Mystery of the 3 Days and Nights by Gregory J. Bitgood. I hope that was the intended work. I founded glaring errors in the Introduction under "Incarnation". For instance: "It is true that God in Himself could not submit to death, but if He could become a man, a true man, then as such He could experience all that we experience, including spiritual death. If Jesus could not experience sin and death, then Jesus was not a real man but something in between God and man, a spiritual hybrid." These statements assume that we were designed to die spiritually. True humanity does not include a sin nature. If it did, then Adam was created a sinner and was under the penalty of death when created. Gen 1-3 instead tells us that God's creation was very good and that death came because of disobedience. For Jesus to die spiritually, He would have had to sin personally. This he never did. Hebrews 4:15 (ESV) For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but one who in every respect has been tempted as we are, yet without sin. Another quote: "The Creator made Himself lower than even His own creation: HEBREWS 2:9 But we see Jesus who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honor that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man;" This verse is not saying that the Creator was made lower than His creation but lower than a part of His creation. If the rest of the paper is as poorly done as the beginning, I can see why people would be deluded. Steve |
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