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1 | "ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED"!!! | Matt 22:37 | Jesusman | 30455 | ||
For by Grace are you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; not as a result of Works, that no one should boast. Ephesians 2:8-9 YOU DON'T WORK FOR YOUR SALVATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Jesusman |
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2 | "ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED"!!! | Matt 22:37 | jlpangilinan | 30463 | ||
Dear Jesusman, I know that what you are telling about. It is by faith and grace, but faith without fruit is a dead faith. I think you dont understand my point, I write a note of who those considered save, you write different things. You completely ignore the scriptures that I quoted. It seems that you are not convince that those who will saves are those who stay in Christ until the end? It is His word my friend not mine. I know we cannott achieved salvation by result of works but a Christian we must have a good results. Do you agree? If we as a Christian we dont need a good works what we are going to do Bad? When Paul do his evangelical works is that Good or Bad? as a Christian we must have a good result not to boast but fullfilling what Christ commanded; Mt 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Mt 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen. Teaching them all whatsoever I commanded you. When you taught people to follow the commandments of Jesus is it Good or Bad? Your statement with strong shouting "YOU DON'T WORK FOR YOUR SALVATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is what apostle paul said, of course not in shouting but with fear and trembling. Php 2:12 ¶ Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. Who do you suggest I am going to believed you or Apostle paul? God bless, Johnny |
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3 | "ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED"!!! | Matt 22:37 | Jesusman | 30466 | ||
Let me get this straight. You're saying that our good works keep us in Salvation. Correct? However, Our Good Works are not to keep us saved, but to prove to others that we are saved. "By their fruits you shall know them, ..." Matthew 7:20. "For it is God who is at work in you, both to will and to work for His good pleasure." Philippeans 2:13 Paul says in the following verse that you referenced that it is God who is working within you. Also, our works not only prove our salvation, but it is the logical cource of action for those dead to Sins, look at Romans 6:1-23. It clearly teaches that we are dead to sin, and that as new creatures in Christ, we are to act as Christ did. In fact, Romans 6 proves fully that works don't save you, that grace through faith saves you, and that works are the natural course of Action for the saved. Jesusman |
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4 | "ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED"!!! | Matt 22:37 | jlpangilinan | 30559 | ||
Jesusman, Did I say that good works will save us? What I said is as a Christian we must have good results, like what is done of the desciples are they do good or bad? They evangelize the world, is good or bad? if you are really a Christian you must have a good fruit. But I never said that it will saves you. But as a Christian it should be your output! I know that works will not save us but again as a Christian it should be your output, to do good. Do you think you can be recognized as Christian if you steal, rape, kill your neighbor? If we really not need to do good, why your pastor preach why they teach? is that good or bad? it is the output of a true Christian. If somebody will ask you for food, and you know if dont give them anything they will die, and you gave them, is that good or bad? I know it will not save you, but as a Christian it should be your output, to do good. You mention, that works are the natural course of Action for the saved. So why you are not like Paul or John? Do you think what paul done is only a course of action? How many people done like what Paul done? Do you think you can do what Paul done if it really "course of Action" it seems that you underestimate what Paul done my friend? Do you mean all of the Desciples done what they done as a "course of action" or they done it by truly following Christ examples? What I mean of what Paul saying is to work it out, be watchful, prayerful what Jesus said and done He is very prayerful to keep us stay in Him forever. Is being prayerful good or bad? If you are a Christian you must be prayerful or not? Prayer will help us stay with Him until the end. "Do not bring us to the test, and deliver us from evil Amen" For me you are consider saves if you stay with Him forever, not a matter of months or years but until the end. Mt 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. God bless |
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5 | "ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED"!!! | Matt 22:37 | John Reformed | 64595 | ||
Dear Johnny, The fruit is a result of our connection to the root. We are the branches that bear the fruit that the root or vine produces in us. The good works we perform are ordained by God, who also gives us the desire and the means to do them. It's all about His glory and power and not about how good a christian (or not) I am. John |
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