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1 | "ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED"!!! | Matt 22:37 | jlpangilinan | 30387 | ||
Did you mean that even Adam and Eve not fall to temtation of Satan they considered go to hell? What do you mean of they are not save? I said they are consider save if they are not fall to satan temptation. They were going to stay there forever and ever in paradise. It was the plan of God to them. If they did not fall what sin they did anyway? Did you main also that they are not created as perfect? Did you mean God created such things that not perfect? What kind of God is that? God bless, Johnny |
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2 | "ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED"!!! | Matt 22:37 | The Disciple | 30416 | ||
Johnny, sorry for the incorrect sentencing. I just reread what I had posted. Let me state again. Adam and Eve were not saved beings when they were created. They were God's creation for God's own pleasure, IN HIS IMAGE. They had nothing to be saved from when they were created. NOT until they fell into sin. But WE..as Christ(ians) are saved ...from what? We are saved from the fall of our 1st Parents. Hence, the need to be saved. Saved from what? Eternal Damnation... So after the fall, Adam and Eve needing saving. How did they get it? They got it the same time we did. When JESUS died for all on that cross and rose from the dead. I am not sure what you are trying to say from your last post. forgive me. D |
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3 | "ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED"!!! | Matt 22:37 | jlpangilinan | 30459 | ||
Dear Desciple, What do you prefer when we said "SAVE"? are those who baptized by the pastors of ministers around us. Please explain. I do believed in this verses that always quoted of those who said that "once save is always save": Joh 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: Joh 10:28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. Joh 10:29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. But who will justify you if you are save or not? Your pastors you self? How can you make sure that you are save or not? The answers is you have to stay with Jesus until the end of your time: Mt 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. The save mentioned of our Lord Jesus Christ in verses of the book of John are those who beleived in Jesus Christ and stay with Him until thier last breath. Those are people that consider save. And here we saying that save is always save? In order to be consider save is to stay with Jesus until the end, according to the verses of the book of Matthew. Maybe other people misused the term "save is always save" meaning they maybe understnd that after you recieved Christ and then after baptizing you ,and that's it. Even if sometimes you going back to your old life i.e. stealing from properties of others, killing people in some reasons you still save because "once save is always save". But Jesus Christ mentioned, Mt 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. So it is clear that you only considered save if you stay with Him until the end. Amen. How we can sustain, and make sure that we can stay with Him forever, in response as a Christian we have to do our part, apostle paul said we have to work it out: Php 2:12 ¶ Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. So, who will can say that he is save if he is not stay with Jesus until the end of time? You? Me? it is our hope that we can stay with Him until the end. God bless, Johnny |
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4 | "ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED"!!! | Matt 22:37 | The Disciple | 30472 | ||
Johnny, Goodness...but I do agree with all that you state. All the scriptures you post are correct in the context to what they state. To answer the question ...who says we are saved or not saved???? Only ...our LORD can say so - at the final judgement day. Romans 7 tells us of our inability to be sinless. Romans 8 shows us that as HIS children we will not endure the torment coming. The choice of 'staying' (as you put it) as a Christian is fully on us. But know this, we cannot crucify Jesus over and over with our sinful acts. But I would like an answer to this question: Can we OUTSIN......Grace? *shalom* D |
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