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1 | How do we open eyes to truth? | Deut 7:2 | jlpangilinan | 24291 | ||
Charis, I know common sense, I did not mention either that you just watch when somebody murdered your children. But Jesus Christ said flee to mountains. I am expecting that when we have a discussion we should put our reason base on biblical truth. If we are really a Christian what would we do? 1Co 5:10 Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world. We should go out of the world because we are not in this world. I know you know what it means. What this passages is all about if you are a Christian and still you within you. Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution. For to me to live is Christ, and to die is gain. Ga 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. If we are really a Christian we should follow the example of paul, He is not the one deciding for him but it was Christ.Paul was put in prison and beheaded, more of the desciples was murdered, are they commanded to fight? or use thier common sense to depend thier family?: He was led out of the city, with a crowd of the lowest rabble at his heels. The fatal spot was reached; he knelt beside the block; the headsman's axe gleamed in the sun and fell; and the head of the apostle of the world rolled down in the dust" (probably A.D. 66), four years before the fall of Jerusalem. Are they use common sense my friend? or they just allow thier prosecutors to prosecute or kill them? Too many claiming that they are a Christian but cannot follow the example of a true Christian (including me) Mt 16:25 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it. If we cannot follow the example of true Christians we should submit that we are just Christian by mouth and not by heart, just because of money: Mic 3:11 The heads thereof judge for reward, and the priests thereof teach for hire, and the prophets thereof divine for money: yet will they lean upon the LORD, and say, Is not the LORD among us? none evil can come upon us. We have too many of that right now, very good to preach and teach, but cannot do what he was talking. God bless, Johnny |
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2 | How do we open eyes to truth? | Deut 7:2 | Radioman | 24335 | ||
You MUST take Scripture in context to get at the true meaning of it. In Matthew 24:16 Jesus is speaking to ONE particular group of people, at ONE particular time, in ONE particular place. He is speaking to "them who are in Judea," not to all people in all places. He says these exact words: "Then (when v. 15 is fulfilled, not anytime a war breaks out) let them who are in Judea flee into the mountains." Are you in Judea? Am I? Is the President? Were the twin towers in Judea? Was Matthew 24:15 fulfilled on 9-11-01? |
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3 | How do we open eyes to truth? | Deut 7:2 | coop1 | 24341 | ||
Hi Tim, Does it not bother you that our government leaders seem to be playing God here? I have heard the president make such comments as, "the unrighteous will pay". Does anyone not see the wrong in such statements? First of all, who are we to judge unrighteousness? Did not Hitler judge the Jews unrighteous and use this to justify his killing? Where does the bible say that America has the right to rule and judge the world, or that our democratic way is the only true way to run things? Where do we get the right to impose our rule and governing ways upon the rest of the world? Where does the bible say that if a another country doesn't have "X" many of McDonalds on every corner, they are evil? Who says that democratic freedom is righteous? That electing our leaders and having the right to vote is the one pure way? Who issued all these freedoms as righteousness? God gave us the freedom to choose between good and evil. I do not recall Him giving us the freedom to abort babies, marry same sex partners or even to vote for Bush! God gave us the freedom to do what we ought...but we used it to do what we want...including using it to put into place more freedoms than we have the right to have! I have the right to buy something for 1.00 one dollar, and sell it to you for 100.00 dollars. Does that make this a "righteuos" freedom?-Just because it is possible in America? Do you not see that the world stage is being set for the eventual one world control of the anti christ and that we in "this great country" are leading the way? We are not preserving the good old USA by our oppresive actions! Rather we are detroying it! By setting the stage for a one world government, we are destroying this country as we know it today. For tomorrow, it will be under new law and a new government...the one that we are now laying the ground work for! Our true family is the family of God (Matthew 12:46-50) The USA is only the land inwhich we were physically born. We have now been grafted into a new tree and a new family.(Romans 11) Maybe we should redirect our loyalties to line up with our true "people". "For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh: (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strongholds;) Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ..." (2 Corinthians 10:3-5) coop1 |
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4 | How do we open eyes to truth? | Deut 7:2 | Morant61 | 24355 | ||
Greetings Coop1! Who gave the United States the right to judge unrighteousness? According to Scripture, God did! Romans 13:1-5 says, "Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2 Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. 3 For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and he will commend you. 4 For he is God’s servant to do you good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword for nothing. He is God’s servant, an agent of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. 5 Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also because of conscience." Notice in particular that verse 4 says that God has given the sword to rulers to punish wrongdoers. If are government starts to use that sword inappropriately, then God will judge us! p.s. - We are not attacking Afganastan because they do not have enough McDonalds. We are attacking them because they are actively hiding, supporting, and aiding the individuals who killed almost 4,000 innocent Americans. Is America perfect? Of course it isn't. But neither was Israel, and it was a Theocracy. I would still rather live here than anywhere else in the world! Are there people who do and support evil things in America? Yes! But, we have the freedom here to speak out against them. The Taliban would simply execute you if you disagreed with them! :-) Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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5 | How do we open eyes to truth? | Deut 7:2 | coop1 | 24365 | ||
But are we not causing the Afganastan people to go against the authority that was set into place? The same principle must apply to all countries or is it exclusive to America? Either that or we are mis-interperting the text? What about Sadum, is he 'just' to apply dictatorship to Iraq and drop chemical weapons on those of his own country, who disagree?...he must be if the way you interpert those scriptures are correct. They must do as he says since he was given authority? Yes? Be it evil or good, they must abide by the authorities in their land...that is what you are telling me. Why do we see Christians being jailed in all parts of the world? They are going against the governing laws to do what God has commanded!? Correct? Is it not proper then to do the same in America? Who judged Americans innocent? How many "innocent" (spoken in the same context) people has the US killed in all the wars over the coarse of history? How many innocent people died in the bombing of Hiroshima alone? Why is it that we Americans seem to be the only ones ever 'justified' for all the killings? Oh...I forgot...God has elected us the one people to be able to commit murder for what we 'think' is a good or just reason. No? To hear you and many others talk...that would sound true if I did not know better. The bottom line is..we are not to kill period. With or without a given "reason". We are not somehow exhaulted above the word of God and justified because we think we are or because we somehow appear more intellegent or sophisticated than some. America struck back out of revenge. Operation True Justice (or, I am going to get you back for this), was the first name given to the mission to anihlate these men. And after politically thinking that over...all of the sudden, we were in a war against all terrorism under a new heading of Operation Enduring Freedom. Do you really believe that we are going to rid the world of "the evil doers' as our President puts it...or of terrorism (which is all born of and driven by satan) with simply man made weapons? Do you not see the incompetence in that? Personally, I believe it is dangerously prideful for America to think we have such power...and secondly, even more dangerous for us to stand before God, killing innocent people, as though we are without sin and somehow justified for such action. Childern are dying during these bombings. Afghanastan children...innocents'. What is the difference between their innocence and ours? Killing is not just in any way for any reason. coop1 |
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6 | How do we open eyes to truth? | Deut 7:2 | Morant61 | 24386 | ||
Greetings Coop1! Herein lies our basic disagreement concerning the Bible: I don't believe that the Bible teaches that either war or killing is always wrong. The simple fact is that God COMMANDED Israel to go to war! Therefore, it cannot be evil in at least that instance. Thus, one cannot say that war is always wrong. Or, you are saying that God commanded Israel to do evil. God also commanded the deaths of people. Sometimes, He even commanded "innocent" women and children to be killed. We can disagree about when war is justified or not, but I simply don't see any Biblical argument that rules it all automatically. There is no verse which says, "War is always wrong, thou shalt never kill!" If there were such a verse, God Himself violated it! By the way, we are not bombing innocent children. We are bombing the soldiers of the Taliban who have choosen to back a terrorist organization that has and will continue to attack us unless they are stopped. Let's compare actions, shall we? 1) They bomb, with planes, the Trade Towers. In those towers, were thousands of people who were simply going to work. They had not done anything to the terorrists. They had not done anything to the Taliban. In fact, most of them probably had no clue who the Taliban were. But, 4,000 of them are now dead because an evil group decided that they could make a point by killing them. 2) We demanded that these murders be turned over for trial. The Taliban refused. Indeed, they support these terorrists (primarily because they receive their funding from these terorrists). So, we go in and take out the ability of the Taliban to do war and native Afghans are the ones who are fightening to overthrow a government, of foreigners, who came in 1996 and seized control. I don't think there is any comparison. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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7 | How do we open eyes to truth? | Deut 7:2 | coop1 | 24408 | ||
The simple fact is that God COMMANDED Israel to go to war! Therefore, it cannot be evil in at least that instance. Thus, one cannot say that war is always wrong. Or, you are saying that God commanded Israel to do evil. Israel is a set apart nation. They are caused to be a stunbling block to all nations. God has his own agenda for them and ultimately it is for our good...the gentiles. And again, I remind you that these were happenings under the old covenant. Now, we live under Grace by Faith...not under law. God also commanded the deaths of people. Sometimes, He even commanded "innocent" women and children to be killed. Here I agree...innocent people will be killed for the sake of the plan of God and in Jesus name. "Thy will be done Lord, even though it may bring great sorrow to our earthly vessels." We can disagree about when war is justified or not, but I simply don't see any Biblical argument that rules it all automatically. There is no verse which says, "War is always wrong, thou shalt never kill!" If there were such a verse, God Himself violated it! Here we have a problem...because when I read, "Thou shalt not kill"...I do not see an "except for this reason or that" clause after it. There are no buts...just Thou shalt not kill. To further that, every move Jesus made cried out...take on not weakness, but meekness...turn the other cheek, love thine enemies, pray for those that use you..and basically taught us to take strength in the following of His teachings, through which we will be able to quinch ALL the firery darts of the wicked one. (Big and small) By the way, we are not bombing innocent children. We are bombing the soldiers of the Taliban who have choosen to back a terrorist organization that has and will continue to attack us unless they are stopped. I invite you to tour the Time.com 'essay in pictures page'. Please make it clear to the burnt children in Afganastan that we are not bombing them. And to those whose parents and loved ones have been killed. ) They bomb, with planes, the Trade Towers. In those towers, were thousands of people who were simply going to work. They had not done anything to the terorrists. They had not done anything to the Taliban. In fact, most of them probably had no clue who the Taliban were. But, 4,000 of them are now dead because an evil group decided that they could make a point by killing them. Do you actually think that I am not aware of this or condone it in any shape, form or fashion? Yes, they commited a terrible, violent act!!! They were driven by evil forces, whisperings and deceits of satan....which we are not going to overcome with the simple weapons of man. The evil behind those attacks will only be overcome through SPIRITUAL WARFARE, which includes following the word of God, relying on His understanding and trusting in His power! Oh, we may actually manage to kill Bin Laden the man...but do you think by the tactics that you are now backing, we will be able to rid the earth of the powers of darkness that drove him? Or will that spirit simply continue through someone else? Your honest opinion now... 2) We demanded that these murders be turned over for trial. The Taliban refused. Indeed, they support these terorrists (primarily because they receive their funding from these terorrists). So, we go in and take out the ability of the Taliban to do war and native Afghans are the ones who are fightening to overthrow a government, of foreigners, who came in 1996 and seized control. This to me-looks like it says: We forgot to ask God for His guidance and wisdom, we hastely relied on our own power and intellegence. Satan would not cooperate with us. So we engaged in a battle with him, naked of righteousness, using his own weapons of destuction, to further our own political gain. And the people around the area are being killed and oppressed from all sides, and don't know what to think or where to turn because there is no Truth being given them from anywhere. And while for a season, it may look as though they are coming out of oppression, without the One True God...they will be lost anyway. Why don't our leaders take this to them? If this is a war about justice issued by America, for the sake of God and what is right against "the evil doers"...where is our proclamation of such? I am sorry, I forgot, this is a "free" country and we may hurt someone's feelings if we tell the truth or put God in Government or forbid...teach another country under oppression why it is that they are actually oppressed. Honestly Tim, I do not see that much difference in the actions of our honorable plight and that of the terrorist. Death to a people is still death...wether it is instant or slow. A lie is a lie...wether it is sugar coated or outright. And to indirectly claim that we are going to save these people through any other means than spiritual guidance...is a lie. |
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8 | How do we open eyes to truth? | Deut 7:2 | Morant61 | 24413 | ||
Greetings Coop1! So, your saying that it is always wrong to kill! Therefore, God commanded people to do evil! I don't buy it! But, you have to the right to believe what you want! But, you are dead wrong comparing the terorrists and the US of A. We are targeting people who intiated a war with us. We didn't just lob a bomb into a public school! They attacked us! They will continue to attack us if someone doesn't stop them! What if they got their hands on a nuke? If there was not difference between us and them, we would have simply erased the entire country! You make it sound like America is evil in and of itself. There are wicked people, but there are also good people as well. There are things which need changed, but there are also many good things as well. I just don't share your dim view of our country. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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9 | How do we open eyes to truth? | Deut 7:2 | coop1 | 24427 | ||
Like you said, we all have the right to our opinion, and I am trying to respect yours also. I guess we are truly at an impass, with little left to be said. I do not believe we are the nation God intended for us to be and we have become an evil nation. I believe there are "good people" in all the world. And for their sake, the terrible things to come will be shortened. But I do not see a distinguishable difference between our countries sins and that of other nations. To the contrary, we are worse because we have been blessed all the more, and have turned on our blessings. "To he who knows it is sin, it is sin". I still contend that our loyalties are better rested in our adopted family, the family of God. It wouldn't be the first time God called His own away from their earthly family. It is not unbiblical to turn away from your own country for God, ya' know? Our patriotism is admirable to a point, but when it goes beyond God's word...it becomes sin like anything else. Just another god for people to focus on. Another means for the enemy to pull us away from where our focus should be. It almost seems to me that America has a new god...itself. Where our faith, hope and strength now seem to rest. Thanksgiving just passed. The pilgrams, new to this land...rested their whole trust in God to pull them through...to cause rain, to cause bountiful crops, to heal the sick, to protect them from dangers. That is our roots...what our nation was born out of. Child like faith. Why should it be differnt now? In my opinion, America will not go unpunished. For our sins, she will suffer greatly I believe. Why can't we just own up to our sins and mistakes? Why can't we just turn back to our roots and give it all back to God? Aren't we suppose to remove the log from our own eye before we remove the stick from our brothers eye? The terrorist killed 6000 Americans on september 11, 2001. Americans kill thousands of innocent Americans every day through abortion. And thousands more Americans daily via street murders, robberies and rape. And still yet thousands more through greed, capitalism, oppression, drugs, poverty and social unrest. How can we judge any one with a track record like that...before at least having the courage to step up and say..."well, we been mess'n up! Let's get back to the basics, put God back into our hearts, our schools, our government and our lives." Then and only then...we will be able to stand justified, able to issue true justice. Only thing is...then, we would not have to defend ourselves, cause Almighty God would be doing it for us! coop1 |
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10 | How do we open eyes to truth? | Deut 7:2 | Morant61 | 24434 | ||
Greetings Coop1! Well, there are some things we stand together in. We are brothers in Christ. We both want our nation to be better morally. We both want peace! Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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